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What was on GEN-pool für Creatures?   
Jabber

Jabber
United States  


  10/5/2020  2

While watching old Lazy Game Reviews videos, I came across one with an offhand mention of an unauthorized disc containing free third-party Creatures content that was sold in retail stores without the permission of the authors. Some looking into the company that made That's Life! shows the name of the CD was GEN-pool für Creatures, but although it has a wiki page, the page is only two sentences long and has an incorrect title on top of that.

Does anyone have more information about what was on this disc, or even own a copy? I'm primarily interested in knowing if it contained anything that has since been lost to time, given how early it came out in Creatures history (1997). It doesn't seem to be available for purchase anywhere, unfortunately, otherwise I'd just check it out myself and keep it around as an oddity.

 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  10/6/2020  3

Okay, I tried a random google search for the exact title and ended up on Amazon.
It says that it contains creatures in various life stages from other "parents". And yes, the "parents" are put into quotation marks like that. Among the creatures it lists hybrids like GreNorns as well.

In addition it says that it offers tools to modify the looks of your creatures, or to "genetically" modify food (again, quotation marks around "genetically" ).
Lastly, it claims to have new objects such as an anti-baby-pill and the ultimate medicine.

The original game Creatures is required to use it. System requirements are identical to those of the original game.

EDIT: I also found this slightly dodgy offer which may or may not be our disk in question for a little under 7 bucks.


Lets play plants! Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis...
 
C-Rex
Lollipop Lord

C-Rex


 visit C-Rex's website: The Norn Nebula
  10/6/2020

I honestly had no idea that even existed.
 
Liil

Liil



  10/6/2020  3

I own a copy but i don't know where it is now. Somewhere on the attic i think.

It contained COE(Creatures Object Editor) a program for editing and creating C1 COBs i think it was made by Alexander Leammle.

It contained a Sprite Editor.

The Genpool CD was filled with C1 Norns, some with interesting Mutation, special colors that where very rare.

The Genpool also contained some COBs.

Me and my friend loved it very much, because we had no Internet connection and with this CD we had so many things, which where only available online.
We edited spirtes of existing things in the world, added chemicals to existing food cobs to make them more nutritious.

 
Jabber

Jabber



  10/6/2020

@Papriko, great find! I might try to buy it if Liil can't find their copy.

@Liil, could you try looking for the disc? I'd really like to see what COBs were on it. There doesn't seem to be nearly as much missing stuff for C1 as there is for C2 (or maybe just a lack of documentation makes it seem that way), but GEN-pool could potentially contain things not otherwise available anymore. COE and various sprite editors are still floating around.

 
Liil

Liil



  10/6/2020  2

Okay, i will try to find it.

Give me a week or two.

I'm owning a large storage of creatures related stuff of the last 18 Years, C1, C2 + C3DS on my hard disk and external storage. I update them every few months, if new stuff is available. Most is DS related but i think an ISO of the Genpool would be nice as an addition for the C1 stuff.

I could share the Genpool ISO if I find the CD on the attic, but I don't know if this is legal?

 
C-Rex
Lollipop Lord

C-Rex


 visit C-Rex's website: The Norn Nebula
  10/6/2020

It's sort of a grey area, but seeing as the CD itself isn't entirely legit, maybe it wouldn't be an issue?
 
Doringo
Lodestar

Doringo


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  10/6/2020

Liil wrote:

It contained COE(Creatures Object Editor) a program for editing and creating C1 COBs i think it was made by Alexander Leammle.



Oh! I've messed with that before. I was wondering why it was asking to be registered despite being indie software. I guess that might explain why?

 
Liil

Liil



  10/6/2020  3

I couldn't resist to climb the ladder. Attic expedition was successful!

I found the Genpool CD, an old C1 Backup and Sea Monkeys CD.

COBs on the Genpool:

Killerturkey
The Pill
Hypercarrot Dispenser
Xmas Pack
Cheese
Anti Bodies
Coffe
Dream Potion
FEAR Infusion
Female Hyper Tomato
Fruit of the Doom (+V3)
Holo Doc
Male Hyper Tomato
Object Show
POWER Infusion
Power Pulsor Infusion
Selector Lemmon V3
The Grendel Egg
The TEST Norn Egg
Tomato
Ugly Tomato

Tools on the Genpool:

COE 1 + 3 + 4
Creatures NO CD
EGGSTRA (Mor eggs for People who only had 6 eggs on the egg-disc)
Darwin + Cheese Cheat
Norn Family (Ancestry Documentary Tool)
Sprite Builder

254 different C1 Norns are included

COBs on my old C1 backup:

Albian Carrot Beetle
Bed Time Bear
Bees and Hive Upgrade
Bong
Cage Control Box
Carrot Variation
Carrots
CarrPatch
Cave Fly
Cheese-Garden
Cheese-Cellar
Cloud Butterfly
Cocomilk
Coconuts
Cooking Pot
Crystal Ball
Frog Remover
Frog
Grapevine Remover
Grapevine
Grendel Scarer
Honey Jars
Music
OP1Rem
OP2Rem
ovenP1
ovenP2
ovenroom
PactRemo
Potions and Lotions
Refrigerator
Restraining Cage
Shee Seed Launcher
Smashing Jungs
Solution X
Submarine SWS
Sunbee REM
Sunbee
SungardenREM
Sungarden
TeaCupV1 + REM
TeaPot + REM
Wine for Two + REM
Xmas Pack

 
Jabber

Jabber



  10/6/2020  1

Awesome, Liil! And it looks like I don't have some of those. Would you be willing to put all of the GEN-pool stuff in a zip and upload it to Dropbox or a similar hosting site? This is a really interesting piece of Creatures history to have. You could also give it to Lacota and have her put it on Eem Foo's Archive.
 
Liil

Liil



  10/6/2020  1

Okay I will try it tomorrow.

I created 3 ISOs: Genpool, Sea Monkeys and my Creatures1 Backup with COBs. I'm not familiar with hosting files, which sites are the best free ones?

How to contact Lakota?

I can make ZIP files for Genpool Stuff, but I don't know if the COBs in my C1 Backup need the sprites, I don't know the names of the sprites who match to the COBs. I think it is better to upload whole C1 Game Backup and someone can try to find the sprites matching.

 
Jabber

Jabber



  10/6/2020

Dropbox is a good free hosting site and Lacota can be reached on Creatures Caves. Zipping up your whole Creatures 1 game installation is a good idea, yeah.
 
digitalcheetah

digitalcheetah



  10/6/2020

I thought I heard LGR talking about that. I thought it was something that was fabled to exist. Now I know. I can blame him for more obscure shovelware exiting obscurity! :P

Thing is, I've never saw it on store shelves where I live, and I wonder..was it only sold in Germany?

 
Liil

Liil



  10/7/2020  5

I've uploaded the files to dropbox:

Genpool:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h17yoltb2fbpwnk/Genpool%20COB.zip?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ar1ohsrw786ugs/Genpool%20NORN.zip?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rl4etzsqr4eic9a/Genpool%20TOOL.zip?dl=0

Creatures1 Backup:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gpsvoue0gv0rc0i/creatures1.iso?dl=0

Sea Monkeys:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zr2o7ggcp50drqo/Sea_Monkeys.iso?dl=0

 
FlyingEttiNorn

FlyingEttiNorn



  10/8/2020  1

Surprised that LGR hasnt done a video on Creatures, tbh.

there is some sort of double-edged sword about these third-party DLC packs in that, while they stole people's work and sold it for money, they provided downloads for people without internet access and they may also count as preservation if their content isn't available elsewhere anymore

And why are all the COBs just Beowulf's stuff?

 
Liil

Liil



  10/10/2020

Please download soon if you need the files everybody, I will shut down the download links on monday, because of the “Grey Area” thing.
 
ColorfulCamel

ColorfulCamel


 visit ColorfulCamel's website: Odie's Ocean
  10/19/2020

I needed the files, but have missed these links; please re-upload the files again tomorrow, for a couple days at least :(

Asian Elephant 2367 needs more space!
 
Linnet

Linnet


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  10/19/2020  1

I've gone ahead and rehosted these:

https://albian-archive.neocities.org/sites/Miscellaneous/files/creatures1.iso
https://albian-archive.neocities.org/sites/Miscellaneous/files/Genpool%20COB.zip
https://albian-archive.neocities.org/sites/Miscellaneous/files/Genpool%20TOOL.zip
https://albian-archive.neocities.org/sites/Miscellaneous/files/Genpool%20NORN.zip

The Sea Monkeys one is too big and neocities gets grumpy, though.

 
ColorfulCamel

ColorfulCamel


 visit ColorfulCamel's website: Odie's Ocean
  10/21/2020  1

Thank you! :D I've downloaded them. :) As for Sea Monkeys, maybe you could try Dropbox instead? I can't find any other way to get Sea Monkeys (PC), so I need it as well, even if the link is only temporary.

Asian Elephant 2367 needs more space!
 
Liil

Liil



  10/25/2020  1

I will rehost Seamonkeys tomorrow ;)
 
Liil

Liil



  10/26/2020  1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iyuy7jrx4ad7oin/Sea_Monkeys.iso?dl=0

The link will be shutdown in one week.

 
ColorfulCamel

ColorfulCamel


 visit ColorfulCamel's website: Odie's Ocean
  10/26/2020

I've downloaded it, thank you so much! [ngrin]

Asian Elephant 2367 needs more space!
 


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