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 KC11    |
I recently decided to make these norns called Elsewhere norns. These are norns that ages backwards!(when they are born, you have to open the CAOS command and type "targ norn ages 6" or maybe a lower number if you want, else they die). Are these a good idea? Are these even possible? Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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 ElasticMuffin |
Sounds a tad unviable as you describe it, but weirder things have been achieved in the past.  You could of course just make them hatch with senile sprites and get smaller as they go...The Creature Repository / Eem Labs My Creatures download archive (Bibbleworld, C12DS, and more) |
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 Sixty Third Karias |
..And perhaps stronger through age, until they're babies and weak again, immunity and otherwise. -Karias; a bit fruity and gone bananas in the wrong climate!  |
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KC11 |
Well, these all sound like good ideas. But there is the problume that I am a geneticsit, not a spriter. I also had an idea that when the norns are babies after a little while they become eggs, then when they hatch, they are a baby of a different norn breed. Then when that norn dies, a norn becomes pregnate, then when the egg hatchs, they are the age of the norn that just died. Of course, these ideas are certainly very hard to create, and are very, very, very, very, very likely to be impossible. Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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Sixty Third Karias |
And I'm a spriter- although the job is pretty easy, but what of eggs, Body Data? You really up to the plan? -Karias; a bit fruity and gone bananas in the wrong climate! |
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KC11 |
What is Body Data? Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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Sixty Third Karias |
Ah, I explained earlier in a nonforum dimension  - You'll just now have to ask around for more expertisely help. I can only help with Sprites and alittle genetics.-Karias; a bit fruity and gone bananas in the wrong climate! |
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KC11 |
Ok, well, I guess I'll take a shot a the breed (although that other stuff I posted in my second post on this topic is, of course, not at all manditory) Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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 xan |
I don't think it's possible to age norns backwards -- not spritewise, anyway. If there was I'd imagine there'd be a caos command for it. Genes may be a different matter. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
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KC11 |
I have tried to geneticly age the norns backwards. I have no idea if it works though (I havent been at the computer long enough). However, I would think it would be possible with the sprites. Just make baby norns have senile sprites and all that. Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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xan |
Didn't think of it that way. Good call. |
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 awmanman |
If you reversed the age, you would need to flip around the mating cycle. EXAMPLE: it would look weird if a female baby norn layed an egg twice her size! Nine times have I been told im crazy and ten times I have accepted it. |
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 AquaShee |
Not really. Norns never lay eggs twice the size of baby norns, because the eggs themselves grow. The Community Scribble: make (y)our own metaroom! |
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awmanman |
I knew that, it was an exageration. DID YOU KNOW: rainbow snakes are the only creatures on earth that lays eggs that grow! Nine times have I been told im crazy and ten times I have accepted it. |
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AquaShee |
Eggs that grow outside of the womb, you mean. The Community Scribble: make (y)our own metaroom! |
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awmanman |
Yes, OUTSIDE the womb i mean. And wouldent you flip the EGG age too? wouldent it shrink? ![:\](/images/smilies/confused.gif ":\") And (sorry about the questions) is the norn a C1 norn? Nine times have I been told im crazy and ten times I have accepted it. |
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KC11 |
Not really. I was thinking about making them have santa norn sprites, and when I say santa norn sprites, I mean the converted C3/DS breed. But then Karias gave me the idea of flipping the sprites and now I am thinking of giving them unique sprites. And to answer the egg question, no, the egg will not "age" backwards. It will be a normal egg. In fact, I am thinking of making them more of an agent. If a norn dies in that world, an elsewhere norn apperes, and that eleswhere norn is the same age as the recently dead norn was when it died. Elsewhere norns are infertal, and when they die as babys, an egg in the world hatchs. If there are no eggs in the world, the body will not disapper until another egg is laid. Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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awmanman |
Cool, maby you could give the baby sprites ( the Old sprites when there young) a bib! Nine times have I been told im crazy and ten times I have accepted it. |
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KC11 |
Norns don't really look good in any type of clothing (discounting CV norns) Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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 Anduin |
Gryph Eh?? It's not that hard at all to make norns appear to age backward using sprites. Just take the sprites and body data and change the third and fourth character. If you were to make "backward-aging" Magmas in Norn-slot Y, you would change the males' head-sprites names like so- a00d => a05y a02d => a04y a04d => a02y a05d => a00y After all the conversions, all you would need is to change a genome to use whatever slot you made the norns in. It would take time, but it's incredibly simple if you know what you're doing. Aging norns backward so their life-stages are actually in reverse would be much more difficult. You would either have to pull an amazing feat of CAOS, or totally rewire a norn's brain and genetics. I'm not sure it's possible....  |
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xan |
I was corrected, Anduin. I hadn't thought of actually changing the sprites. See my second post. |
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ElasticMuffin |
It's entirely probable that such a thing as actual backward lifestages would require hideous hacks to the engine and supporting game CAOS itself, which is not only non-portable from game-to-game, but also impossible because you can't actually hack the engine.  The Creature Repository / Eem Labs My Creatures download archive (Bibbleworld, C12DS, and more) |
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AquaShee |
Actually, I think it might be possible... Alter the eggs so that when hatching the norn is aged to Senile immediatly. (This happens off-screen so noone sees it. All baby Norns live a few seconds off-screen when hatching) Then each time the Norn's life chemical reaches a certain point, you create a new norn with the same genome, but one lifestage younger, and copy over all chemical amounts and brain data, replacing it with the previous norn. That way you get a younger norn with the same memories, illnesses, drives, just younger! This would require some heavy CAOS and a slightly altered genome, but should be possible. (Actually, I'm not sure about copying the brain data, but I think it might work. Brain transplants anyone?) The Community Scribble: make (y)our own metaroom! |
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Anduin |
Sorry Gryph- I was tired and only skimmed the thread. My mistake. =P |
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KC11 |
Anduin, about that sprite thing, you say it is easy? Where do I type this in, and how can you justify its easiness? Also, Aquashee, your idea sounds plasable. But, as you say, it would be rather hard. Is there an expert coder in the house? Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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AquaShee |
I would be able to do it if my theories work. I'm not entirely sure if CAOS permits all I said, but I believe it should. I'm not ready to take on any projects, though. I really prefer to work alone so I might want to experiment a bit first before I can make any promises. The Community Scribble: make (y)our own metaroom! |
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KC11 |
Alright. Well, in the meantime, is there an expert spriter in the house? Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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ElasticMuffin |
The brain data isn't stored in the genome, (is it?) and AFAIK it isn't accessible through CAOS... I dunno. It'd be a lot of work. O_o The Creature Repository / Eem Labs My Creatures download archive (Bibbleworld, C12DS, and more) |
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 Jacob |
Brain data is stored in the genome, if I recall correctly. Not really active around these parts anymore. |
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AquaShee |
Umm, no it's not. The genome is just the blueprint. The Norn and its organs and brain are created from that blueprint. That's why chemicals and brain data have to be copied to the new norn, since copying the genome alone won't work. With brain data I mean memories and thoughts, not how it's all rigged up. The Community Scribble: make (y)our own metaroom! |
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KC11 |
How about just making it a sort of agent? Whenever a norn dies, an elsewhere norn appears, the same age a the recently dead norn. Then that norn slowly ages backwards, then when then norn is a baby, then it dies and an egg in the world hatches. If there are no eggs in the world, the body will not disapper until an egg is laid. Also, elsewhere norns are infeirtal. Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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 tekwar |
That would be a rather complex agent...I think...Well, at least the part of the body not dissapearing untill an egg is lain(and the norn's death causing an egg to hatch) |
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KC11 |
I guess I can leave out the part about the norn body. However, I think the part about the norn egg might be able to happen. Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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 Shann |
Yea,That would be cool. |
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KC11 |
I just had a genius idea! If I could make the agent pan over to a random egg, then have the agent say "hatch egg under hand", then it just might work!!! Do not upset the ugly worm, lest it be a dragon in disguise. (>oo)> |
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Shann |
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