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Andre

Andre
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  5/20/2013

Hi, so, I was breeding a bondi male and a hardman female in a world i set up for that, and they had some offspring.
They all seemed to have inherited their mother's half lives, as they got youth at about 45 mins.
While I was observing the female, she had her bondi male and one of her sons nearby, who was already youth.
Then, it seems both kisspopped her at the same time, and the life event registered 2 pregnancy events for that hardman female.
And I continued observation, and she laid the first egg, and some seconds later, the second.
I was using the updated breeding cob and CFE, so, anyone ever saw something like this?

edit: I hatched the eggs, and they are 2 females, look exactly the same and have the same father.

 
Trell
Wee Scrivener

Trell


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  5/20/2013  1

That's twins luv! :D It happens every so often. Perfectly normal!

Trell
"Holy crap in a casket!"

 
Puddini

Puddini



  5/20/2013

Twins are really rare, but there's some CAOS code that can make having twins more frequent or even having more beyond that!
 
Jessica

Jessica


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  5/20/2013

Sounds like identical twins! I documented the CAOS codes you can use to change the chances for multiple births over at Discover Albia. This is how my C3/DS females almost always lay 2-4 eggs at a time.

Discover Albia

 
magpie-angel

magpie-angel


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  5/20/2013

its not often it happens but they can sometimes have more but the chances for that are very very low. i think the most i've seen my norns have naturally was 4 but that was the once and its never happened again.


 
Feddlefew

Feddlefew



  5/20/2013

I've seen triplets. Once.

I think Quadruplets can happen, but I don't know what the probability is for it.

 
magpie-angel

magpie-angel


 visit magpie-angel's website: lillium white norns
  5/20/2013

i hope jessica doesn't mind me copy pasting from her blog :D

"The standard value is 0.01, or 1%, which means that triplets are extremely rare, and anything beyond is almost impossible. Keep in mind that this does not mean that there is a 1% chance of having triplets, quadruplets, and so on: First a Norn has to be lucky enough to be in the standard 4% bracket to produce twins, and then has a 1% chance from there to have three eggs at once. So this actually means that a Norn has just a 0.04% chance of having triplets!"

i've managed quads without caos but like i said i've never seen it happen again. i get twins quite a lot actually

 
Feddlefew

Feddlefew



  5/20/2013

(For those of us who want that in perspective.)

4% is slightly less than 1 in 20.

.04% is less than 1 in 2000.

 
lapzod

lapzod



  5/20/2013

I've noticed I get twins every now and then. I was really confused the first time it happened
 
Puddini

Puddini



  5/20/2013

I've had twins happen naturally only once or twice and never went beyond that.
 
Rat-tailed

Rat-tailed


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  5/20/2013

I have natural twins ALOT, but i've only seen natural triplets two times in my years of play...
 
TheSecond

TheSecond


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  5/20/2013

Twins are pretty common in my worlds as well (one in twenty seems about right) but I've only seen triplets once, and that was many many years ago.

To be honest, though, I rarely see identical twins.


My favorite norn is still Belldandy.
 
Andre

Andre



  5/20/2013

whew, it seems i'm not the only one to see that :) i thought that i could only have twins with a custom cob, so that confused me...
continuing the breeding story...
it seems most of the offspring are more like hardmen than bondis, i wished to ger norns that attacked grendels, but lived longer and didn't get angry as often...
so, how inheritance works in creatures, if they are haploid?
is there such a thing as dominance/recessivity?

 
Feddlefew

Feddlefew



  5/20/2013  1

No dominant / recessive interactions, but the chromosomes (all two of them) still do crossing over to generate a new genome.


 


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