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 Caves Dweller Rascii   Administrator  |
I stumbled upon this page today when I was looking for Redbull Norns, and it got me thinking: Wouldn't it be neat if we put together a simple English-Norninsh dictionary? I don't know much about langage in the games, but does each word have a specific meaning tied to it? I'm very interested in learning languages in general, so I would be happy to help with this. I think it could be cool for people to use it in their forum signature or for short messages in their forum replies.  - Rascii |
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 Patient Pirate ylukyun Manager |
Not exactly. Here is the article. You can still give a Nornish translation for common words such as "I like", "Creatures", "Norn", "Creatures Caves" etc. |
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Caves Dweller Rascii Administrator |
Ah, thanks ylukyun. So here's our current phrasebook: Responses/Directions - Rascii |
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 Peppery One Papriko |
I think the words are "nornified" by letters or perhaps syllables. Far back I was talking about this topic with someone on the DS server. We noticed that the english "yes" sounded totally different than the german "ja", though they mean exactly the same... Perhaps someone could find out the code behind it, then the translator could work for any word. Lets play plants! Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... |
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Patient Pirate ylukyun Manager |
Doh fur dee is also Ettin. No wonder creatures are always talking about eating each other. |
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Caves Dweller Rascii Administrator |
On a side note: Nornish really resembles Thai when written with English letters. Thai / English Sa wa dee kop = Hello Sa bai dee mai? = How are you? pai nai? = where are you going? - Rascii |
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 Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
It is based on the specific letters... but unfortunately it's not very straightforward. For instance, if you use SEZZ to make a Norn pronounce each letter of the alphabet, one at a time, you can see which sounds they correspond to. (It actually repeats every six letters or so.) When a Norn says actual words, they use different sounds than how they pronounced the individual letters. And there aren't as many sounds in a word as there are characters... so either some sounds represent pairs of letters, or it skips certain letters under certain conditions. And when they speak whole sentences, it gets even weirder. ![[ndoh]](/images/smilies/emot_doh.gif "[ndoh]") Compare:Chee pee doh: run Doh rah dee: Norn Chee fur fur dee: run norn The latter may only be true for C2, however... they don't say the same things in C3/DS. I have a couple ideas on how it might be choosing which sounds to use, but I still need to run a few tests to see if they work.  |
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 Pirate-Rob |
According to Clabs: "I came up with a way of using a random set of numbers to convert any group of three letters into one of these [sounds]." So what I don't understand is why one word has three sounds/syllabyles? Edit: it would be cool if there was a program that when you typed in words it would create the norn equivalent. Edit 2: I might have cracked it! for every 2 letters there is a sound plus an extra sound. Except for what,hot,why,hit,sad,toy and some others... ok nvm Edit 3: A lot of words that start with the 2 same letters also seem to start with the same sound. When life hands you rocks, you throw them back When life hands you tubas, you mistake them for rocks |
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Caves Dweller Rascii Administrator |
It sounds to me like C3/DS would have the more advanced language. So we should probably stick to that one when attempting translation I think. - Rascii |
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