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EttinLover

EttinLover
Sweden  


  1/9/2009

Okay this is it i have around 150 ettins a loooooong time now and im tired of it. And is now going to add some nasty critters and use toxic weeds and stuff like that to give them harder to survive. But the problem is that i need help finding it. Can someone tell me some nasty critters and toxic weeds?

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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/9/2009

Hmmmmmm,
Creating stuff for the sole purpose of hurting/killing Creatures isn't high on most developers' priority list. Consequently there isn't much out there to choose from.

I do know that C1toDS comes with all the C1 weeds, and they're all movable--so you can pick them up and place them anywhere you want, on dirt, in water, in the hallway of the ship where nothing should logically be able to grow, etc. You don't even have to inject the whole world into your game in order to get them, one of the options that appears on the injector screen if you have C1toDS is to just inject the weeds onto the ship without injecting the whole C1 world.



 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/10/2009

you could also use some Toxic norn gadgets like Bubonic Bugle or the Atomic Teapot.

or you take the stuff from the toxic norn pack itself. Stinking Stump Plats are useful, because they make waste to eat AND they make dangerous gas clouds.

if you do not have it, ask a friend to send it to you. so I got mine. ^^
it's even not illegal because
A) CL does not sell it anylonger and
B) it's private for you and not open for anybody


maybe your ettins move to the Grendel Jungle or Garbage Dump...
And let them play with many pests like the Grendel Jungle Mosquitos, the Ants and Bees from the Norn Terrarium and the DS Stingers.


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EttinLover

EttinLover



  1/10/2009

Thanks! I will get happy to get some more help!

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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

Ghosthande


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  1/10/2009

Papriko, that does NOT make it legal. Gameware is the owner of the Toxic and other Norn Packs. They still hold the copyright, and they have not released it for free like they did the newer breeds. Anyone else redistributing their Norn Packs IS illegal. And obviously if EttinLover's getting it from somebody else, it is being redistributed, so no it isn't "private for him".


 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/10/2009

but it's also not an absolute breaking of the law.
as I said: they do not sell it anylonger.
so you do not damage CL if you give it to EttinLover.

when the shop would be still open and/or someone posts it on his/her website for download, then I would even I say "no, thats not ok"

and you sound as when you never did something what is not... correct.
I'm sure you burnt least at one CD or DVD for a friend or used Torrent or similar.

and when it is such a wrong idea: say me where to get now the Toxic Norns without breaking the Copyright.

(we should go now back on topic)


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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/10/2009

Yes it IS an absolute breaking of the law. Breaking the law is breaking the law, there is no "kind of" breaking the law. No, Gameware isn't offering those breed packs for download, but the breed packs still belong to Gameware. Gameware holds sole copyright for the breed packs. Whether they choose to offer those breed packs or not does not change whether it is okay to redistribute them, because the breed packs are SOLELY Gameware's property, Gameware is the only one who can redistribute them.

It's like if I offer samples of bacon one day and not the next--is it okay for someone to steal bacon from me because I'm no longer offering it? Of course not! It's my bacon, and if I don't want to give it out then I don't have to, and it isn't "okay" for somebody to take it from me because I wouldn't give them any. Just because something isn't made available to you at your convenience DOES NOT make it okay to steal that thing. Sometimes we aren't supposed to have something that we want. That's just the way life is.

And no, I do not pirate software, music, or anything else, nor have I ever. I respect other peoples' property, just as I expect that other people will respect mine. If somebody asked me to do something like that for them, at the very least I would never speak to them again.

Whether you are willing to pirate software or not, you're telling EttinLover here that it's okay to do something which is actually illegal. Does he know it's illegal? You didn't give him the benefit of the doubt, you just told him it was all well and fine to do it! What if he actually wouldn't want to use pirated software? Whether he chooses to do so or not, he has the right to know that he's breaking the law if he makes that choice.



 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/10/2009

1. I think EttinLover is a she and not a he

2. after that shouting around she knows probably very exact what we are talking about

3. if you are so angry because of that, then is even the visit on searching sites like google, or video sites like youtube breaking the law.
they also use property of others and just start to Lmao and Rofl when someone else tells them something about "copyright" and other exotic things.

so it is even not allowed to use pictures of them. just go to images.google.com and use as search term "toxic norn". mine tells me 20 of about 91300. most of them are third-party sites and so not allowed to use the graphics.
oh no, sorry! I already said that google is illlegal! what a pity...

and there IS a diference. "stealing the bacon" would be when I crack the firewalls of CL and take the files from there. what I do is offering the bacon, you offered me at first, to other people. you offered it to me, I took it and now I can do with it what I want.

another example for the difference is: when you walk across the street while the traffic light shows red.
when you do it, just to be 'cool' then you can just hope that nobody saw it.
when you do it to reach the bus which goes in a few seconds, then say usally even policemen and -women nothing. how do they always say? "The police is the law"

RavenFire was so kind to give those packs to me. do you really believe she though just 1 moment about the copyright?
NO! she did not. she sent them all 5 to me and was happy to help somebody.
I always tried my best to pay her that back. only 1 example for that are the Shadows of Albia I made for CTribes.
they are not perfect but I still try to make 'em better.

that remembers me to visit her in the jail when CL knows that she sent me the packs. :P

and another problen is: at first must EttinLover a friend who has the Toxics.

(OT comment) OMG, that's more text than in my last english test. I hope I did not make as much mistakes in the grammar (/OT comment)


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EttinLover

EttinLover



  1/10/2009

I don't have a friend that have toxics sadly so you know that Papriko. Well here in sweden i only knows 2 that plays creatures me and Norngirl. So its pity i can't get toxics from a friend. i has downloaded the garbage dump and it worked little! Becuse my ettins has mutated a strong immune system. In fact the more bacteria and toxins maked all the ones with not the mutated immune system died. So now they are stronger than before! Damn ettins! 136 ettins running around. Omg they must stop multiply and i still must get more bad critters and weeds and stuff. WTF!!! They has mutated away the fear receptor they can't get scared and is more resistant to crowdnes O_o
Help please.


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Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/10/2009

you said, you breed the classic C3 Desert Ettins? I think there is something...

#opening GeneLab#
#make a quick check#
#closing GeneLab#

ah! when they breed like hell and you want to stop the living generation, try to inject heavy metals. it damages the Uterus and the Gonad, which are only for getting children. this will only affect the ettins you have. when they get after it still 'children' (e.g. you splice them) will those ones be again fertile

with EDTA you can remove the heavy metals again.


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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

Ghosthande


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  1/10/2009

3. if you are so angry because of that, then is even the visit on searching sites like google, or video sites like youtube breaking the law.
they also use property of others and just start to Lmao and Rofl when someone else tells them something about "copyright" and other exotic things.



First of all I never said I was "angry". The only reason I ever took any part of what you said personally was because you chose to make it personal. You made it personal the moment you said:

and you sound as when you never did something what is not... correct.
I'm sure you burnt least at one CD or DVD for a friend or used Torrent or similar.



What I said about copyrights was correct. If that's a problem for you, either get over it, or ignore it. But don't make this about me, because it isn't.

"stealing the bacon" would be when I crack the firewalls of CL and take the files from there. what I do is offering the bacon, you offered me at first, to other people. you offered it to me, I took it and now I can do with it what I want.



No, because that is where the difference lies between my example and the Norn Packs.

Do you know where the word copyright came from? It was created when the words "copy" and "right" were stuck together. It literally means the right to make copies of something. Did Gameware give you, me, etc., the right to make copies of their software? No. They did not. We are not entitled to make copies of it. Read the legal disclaimer next time you buy a legal copy of a game or other program, and see if it doesn't state that making copies of that software is prohibited. I've never seen a program that wasn't shareware that didn't have such a disclaimer attached, typically with the requirement that you must click the "I Agree" option in order to install.

another example for the difference is: when you walk across the street while the traffic light shows red.
when you do it, just to be 'cool' then you can just hope that nobody saw it.
when you do it to reach the bus which goes in a few seconds, then say usally even policemen and -women nothing. how do they always say? "The police is the law"



Maybe you could try rephrasing that, because honestly, that doesn't make any sense.

RavenFire was so kind to give those packs to me. do you really believe she though just 1 moment about the copyright?
NO! she did not. she sent them all 5 to me and was happy to help somebody.
I always tried my best to pay her that back. only 1 example for that are the Shadows of Albia I made for CTribes.
they are not perfect but I still try to make 'em better.

that remembers me to visit her in the jail when CL knows that she sent me the packs.



That's her problem, then. By buying and installing the Norn Packs (at least I assume she bought them), she basically signed a contract saying 'Yes, I recognize that this is Gameware's property and I will not redistribute it.' By then redistributing it to someone else she has broken her contract with Gameware. She knew there was a contract, she chose to break it, and if she gets in trouble for it, she has no one to blame but herself, because she willfully broke the law. The fact that she was "helping" you honestly doesn't mean anything to anyone except you.



 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/11/2009

Well, I see I am loosing this discussion. I give up, ok?

EttinLover already said that she has no way to get it, even when she would not care about the copyright.

But now we really should go back to the topic, don't want any stress because of Thread hijacking...


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Laura
Tea Queen

Laura

Administrator


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  1/12/2009

Papriko and Ghosthande, bringing disagreements into the public forums is frowned upon. In future please use the private messaging system for such matters.

Back onto the topic of helping EttinLover with her need for toxic weeds and critters please.

 
Papriko
Peppery One

Papriko



  1/12/2009

hmm, that is good. on Twilight's Site you can find some very nasty stuff to get rid of a few Ettins.


and when your Ettins are really so immune as you say and even the toxic stuff does not work, why do you not take some of them and show them the stars? or let them cuddle those funny fishes in the grendel junge ^^

or you take this COAS command.

The following tip is very dangerous and could have a better effect than you want! I warned you...

enum 4 3 0 dead next


everything the game considers as "Ettin" will instantly die. or you take

enum 4 3 0 kill targ next


so they do not die. but all your Ettins will instantly disappear. forever.
Both of those CAOS commands will only affect living Ettins, the ones in eggs are safe.


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EttinLover

EttinLover



  1/12/2009

hhmm that is a pretty good idea Papriko! I must try it!

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