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The development of Albia   
Ghosthande
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  1/1/2009

I was looking at the bell tower in C2 earlier and it occurred to me that there's actually a big brass bell in C1, too: it's kind of in the background, next to the Gelsemium plant. I started to notice other similarities, too, some of which seemed very interesting. I've been wondering for a while if there was a way to correlate the geography of the two games, and though other people might find this interesting, as well.

First, look at the big stone structure supporting the bell. It has animal heads all over the top, which was also a feature of the C1 temple with the music player. That could mean the desert is where the jungle used to be, which would make that yellowish dead tree by the ocean the Grendel Tree. I guess it was killed by the eruption.

This makes a lot of sense because right underneath the dead tree, and slightly to the right, is the cave area where the submarine surfaces. Coincidentally, right underneath the C1 Grendel Tree (and slightly to the right) is a cave area where the C1 submarine surfaces.

In C1, the cave area was at ground level, and immediately to the left of it was a stretch of jungle. In C2, immediately to the left of it is the Norn hatchery, which has some very jungle-ish plants. Could this be Albia's old surface? Does the cave area underneath the hatchery, the section with the arches, correspond to the underground passage with the raft?

Assuming the ocean with the submarine in C2 is the same one we see in C1 that has the pirate wreck--interestingly, it looks like a treasure chest survived all this time--that would make the tropical region with the palms, just to the right of the ocean, the tropical island in C1 that had the umbrellas. It looks like the coconuts survived, as did the bubble-dome, which actually forms a terrarrium now (the one with the venus flytrap).

Coincidentally, the ocean to the right of that is where the "Statue of Nornia" used to be in C1, and that long glass tube leading to the lighthouse--the glass tube now forms a bridge leading from the swamp treehouses to the Shee laboratories, although the lighthouse seems to be gone completely.

I have a theory about the Statue of Nornia, by the way. When you think about it, the Shee statue is almost directly underneath the ocean where the Statue of Nornia once stood. Do those glassy eyes and celestial hairdo look familiar, by any chance? ;)

To the left of the lighthouse was Lover's Leap, which had an old well (which is no more) and a wimpy little waterfall emptying into a pond. My but that waterfall has GROWN! There's still a big mountain in the background, but the whole city/incubator area has been reduced to a gaping hole spanned by a wide rope bridge.

Anyway. That's how I see it. Can anyone find any other similarities?



 
Norngirl

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  1/2/2009

thats a very interessting comperation ^^
some of the stuff have i compared before,but you find a lot,the easiest way would be to take pics of c1 and c2 and compare the areas...but i guess doing here would lead to links,then direct image posting >_>

hmm...for the moment i can't think of any...just norn evolution,how i see it:
c1 banana norn (long eared norn,as i call em) -> c2 Hebbe norn -> bengal *and CA's Alba*
Cos theyre all brown basic norns..well that i find somehow similar and has most promo pics lol... c1 chocolate norn (as i call them) -> emerald norn ->
civet norn (and CA malay norn)
because theyre often the breed that often ends up in blond hair,male and female has green and blue eyes and well they mostly look differ.... c1 fluffy headed (my own naming again) -> c2 pixie -> bruin (and primrose) well cos they all simply has fluffyhair ^^'

for c1,the longeared aka banana norn,where pretty much the mascot for c1,the hebbe for c2 and for c3,bengal,but sometime also the bruin..

somehow i think the okapi is a relative to the civet, the pipinn,am i unsure if it's related to any...for the pmn we do know that the forest is related,but i also think somehow that the c2 golden desert and hardman is related to it as well ^^' and all of those 4,i love XD

well thats my way of thinking ^^'
and thats all i could come up with now..so..
back to the topic *cough cough'

 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/2/2009

Ha ha, Creatures cladistics, I'm addicted already. I've got a whole family tree lying around here somewhere, including Norns and Grendels. It's fun to try to work out relationships, especially when you try to work out relationships for the 3rd party breeds. I always think that the Bondi's are like proto-Aquanorns. :)


 
Officer-1BDI

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  1/6/2009

If it pleases the court forumers, I'd like to present this image as further evidence of Ghosthande's theory:



Creatures 1.9! :D


You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there.
-- Jim Adkins

 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/6/2009

Hey, that's cool! It's just like what I was talking about, but better than it looked in my head! :D


 
Amaikokonut

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  1/24/2009

well according to the lore, C2 albia -is- C1 albia, its just been torn up by the volcano that exposed all the stuff underground (the gene splicer etc.) I'd be more dumbfounded if there were fewer similarities.

[Naturing :: Nurturing]
 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/24/2009

I know it's the same planet, that's the point of the thread: trying to find out which elements survived and where they ended up. Creatures Labs didn't exactly hand out a map showing the equivalents between the two eras.


 
Officer-1BDI

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  1/24/2009

Creatures Labs didn't exactly hand out a map showing the equivalents between the two eras.


That picture I posted earlier came from GW, but otherwise, yeah.

I think part of the problem (really, the problem) is that New Albia is at least twice the size of Old Albia, so trying to pinpoint where the two versions correspond is difficult because they don't even have the same surface area.


You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there.
-- Jim Adkins

 
Norn7b6

Norn7b6



  1/24/2009

one way to explain the size difence is when the volcano erupted it said the sercae was riped apert but i could have also streched, the backgrounds sort of look closer in C2 than C1
 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  1/24/2009

True. The Norns are a bit bigger too, I think, so it could partly be that the player's screen is actually somewhat closer/zoomed in.


 


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