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Development Forum Using the Timer to Kill An Agent?    Malkin    Manager     11/30/2013 Say I have an agent.. I make it roughly like so: ********Lets make some Food inst *create some underneath the garden new: simp 2 11 1000 "infinite_cheese_machine" 2 44 5000 attr 195 *bhvr 48 elas 30 fric 50 accg 3 tick 875 setv ov03 0 mvto 1950 950 cmrt 0 You'll notice I've given it a tick of 875 - roughly 44 seconds, and an OV. What's the objective difference between running the timer off a predefined wait time, like this: scrp 2 11 1000 9 wait 3000 kill targ endm and using an object variable to increment the time until destruction, like this? scrp 2 11 1000 9 addv ov03 1 doif ov03 ge 10 kill targ endi endm Which is the better practice for using the timer to get rid of the item? Are there any drawbacks with using either method that need to be accounted for? My TCR Norns   Moe     11/30/2013  1 The WAIT method can be interrupted if a drop, pickup, or other script is called, thus ensuring an everlasting agent. You can encompass the wait portion with a LOCK and UNLK command to prevent this, but it stop scripts from being called like eat scripts. That's not so good for things like food or complex agents that otherwise need scripts to activate in the meantime. You can actually use the TICK method 2 ways. The first is as you described, and it's the most common way for complex agents with lifespans who use the TICK script for other purposes (like a critter moving, eating, etc, and eventually dying [kill targ'ing] of old age). This method however causes the engine to run the script multiple times, thus eating up performance. In your example, the script needs to run 10 times over roughly 7 minutes. For an agent that needs to die pretty simply when it reaches old age, say like a fruit, you could just give it a long tick. You could set the TICK to 8750 and have it only run once and kill the agent at the appropriate time. The tomatoes in C2toDS have a long tick before they become detritus. As I said however, if it's something more complex that needs to use the timer script for more than just death, a good variable for storage is preferable.   Malkin Manager     4/20/2014 If I was just going the 'set the TICK long, let the timer script just be there to kill the agent' route, what would I need to do to make the agent kill itself safely? (e.g. if a norn was holding it.) Would scrp 2 3 10854 9 lock kill targ endm be enough for the bare bones, or would more be needed? (Niceties like ALPH aside...) My TCR Norns

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