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7/23/2013 | |
I thought this had been mentioned somewhere else, but I can't find it on search... it's a similar idea to Chore Wars, except that it isn't restricted to housework, and is more about the positive re-inforcement than gaming. Basically, you have a little avatar who's an adventurer, and has to complete tasks for XP and gold. Failing to complete the tasks loses hit points. The tasks are things you want to accomplish, or good habits you want to develop - it's very customisable.
I've been using it a while and they're gradually ironing the bugs out of the server (although it's still more reliable to use the phone app to update it). Is anyone else here already using it? If so, would you like to form a Creatures party? |

Malkin
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7/23/2013 | |
I've never heard of this game - how does it work?
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7/23/2013 | |
It's like the old D&D book games, in a way - did you ever play those? You'd start off with a certain number of hit points, and strengths in different areas. Then you'd go exploring, attack monsters, look for treasure etc. If you won battles you'd gain experience points, which would increase the level you were at.
This is the same principle, but the "monsters'" you have to fight are the tasks you set yourself. You mark off when you do them, and that gives you experience points and gold. The more you do, the more you level up. You can set different types of tasks - one-off things (phone someone, pay a bill), things you want to do daily or several times a week (study, exercise), and things you want to do (or not do) maybe several times a day - positive re-inforcement if you're trying to build better habits. If you don't do a task, you suffer a loss of hit points; eventually you can die, at which point you respawn losing 1 level and a piece of equipment. Gold can be used to buy add-ons (armour, weapons and potions) or you can set up your own rewards.
It's still quite novel so I'm finding it quite useful. Close to the end of a level I find myself looking for things I can do to get more XP. Also, for the habits section, I find having them written down reminds me to do things (like drink more water). It's not really a game as such - Chore Wars is more 'game-y' - but in some ways it's more effective.
The HabitRPG website can be found here. |

Malkin
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7/23/2013 | |
Can you re-earn HP? I can see how it'd work better as an app than a computer thing, it'd always be with you - I did the walkthru, but I'm still a bit confused on how to do things.
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7/23/2013 | |
Hit points go back up to 50 when you level up - another incentive to do things to get XP. Some armour reduces hit point loss. Tasks are weighted - so the more you've been putting something off, the more valuable it is when you finally do it. The reverse also applies, but you get bonuses for performing an action repeatedly.
I find the one area to focus on is the dailies - the things that *must* get done regularly. The habit section I find is more useful just for keeping things in mind. I've still not really used the one-off section - it doesn't really work for projects, though it might be better for difficult tasks, or those you know you've been putting off.
Everything's colour coded too - so tasks start of yellow, and get progressively more red if you procrastinate. If you do them often enough, they go green, then blue. |

Malkin
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7/24/2013 | |
What kind of activities do you have in each section? I've watched the kickstarter video, but I'm not sure how to use it still - how would you do something, say, twice daily?
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7/24/2013 | |
Under Habits I've got things that would be nice to get done at least once per day, but aren't vital (like Welsh practice), some +/- entries for things which I ought to do when I can (like making bread), one dissuasion entry (Eat Junk Food, only a -) and some + entries when I want to give myself a pat on the back for not procrastinating (eg. 1 hour project work; 1 hour business work; 1 hour housework) and positive habits I want to develop (drink water; eat fruit/veg).
Under Dailies I've got things that I want to get done at least once per day: meditation; 30 mins work reading; 30 min Welsh lesson; 15 mins gardening; 15 mins decluttering computer. I only put a small amount of time because a) I get a pat on the back for starting, and b) often it's getting started that's the difficult bit; but if I can only make myself do 15 minutes, it still counts.
Under To Dos I've put some stuff that I've been putting off for a while, and some things that aren't vital but need to be done (so it's more of a reminder than anything else): letter to a friend, cancel a subscription, line the kitchen shelves, update the Cobdata website.
It sort of depends on the psychic weight of the thing as to where you put it, to a degree. For something that I want to do multiple times a day - the kind of thing that needs to be kept in mind when building a new habit, say - put it under Habits. If you *have* to do something twice a day, and need to remember both times, you can either put two entries in Dailies, or put one entry in Dailies and one in Habits. (This also works if you want brownie points for doing "extras" - that's why I put a small amount in Dailies but a larger amount under Habits). If you want to do something several times a week, but it doesn't matter when, you can specify individual days on the Dailies. On days when it doesn't apply, it will appear 'greyed out' but you can still tick it off if you do it. |

Malkin
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7/24/2013 | |
Aha, so that's what the greying out means!!! I was trying to put it that it should be every day, but I wound up saying it doesn't matter at all. 
Thanks for the suggestions of ideas for things to log - I think I'll try and form the habit of walking a bit more. 
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7/24/2013 | |
this sounds like a good idea but i know for me it wouldn't work since i give up on things so easily but who knows i'll give it a shot |
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7/24/2013 | |
I've created an Albian Adventurers party. PM me your ID and I'll send you an invite.
Edited to add: you can find your ID by clicking on your avatar, selecting the Groups tab and it's the long number under the Party section. |

Malkin
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7/24/2013 | |
Hehehe, I think mine is already too embarrassing/personal to share. ![[nlaugh] [nlaugh]](/images/smilies/emot_laugh.gif)
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7/25/2013 | |
Heh I wouldn't worry - it doesn't show up to other party members, they just see your avatar and stats (levels, strengths, armour etc.) |

Malkin
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7/25/2013 | |
What's the difference between a party and a guild?
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7/25/2013 | |
Guilds are public - it's more like having a guild house where people get together (chat is public, anyone can join). You can be a member of more than one guild. Parties are more personal, you can only be a member of one, membership has to be approved, you see your group of adventurers when you login, and you have private chat available.
I think the real differences will be more apparent once they've developed the site a bit more - there are party challenges already earmarked for development, and there may be other stuff as well. |

Malkin
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7/26/2013 | |
I haven't registered yet, it seems like it wants me to sign in using facebook? (and I don't really want it to go something like 'Malkin's washed the dog's bottom' all over my wall...)
Does it do that? Can I join a party without registering?
I will say something, though - HabitRPG has well and truly earwormed 'Joxer the Mighty' into my head. XD
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7/26/2013 | |
You have to be registered to use it, but you don't have to use facebook - if you click 'Play' on the main screen, then the Login/Register button, the first option is facebook, but underneath there should be "Or" in big letters, and then underneath two tabs, one for Login and one for Register. Go to the register tab and you should be able to register with an e-mail address.
It is still quite buggy though, and sometimes pages only partly load, so that might be happening. Try clearing the browser cache and reloading the page.
Why Joxer the Mighty...? |

Malkin
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7/26/2013 | 1 |
One line of the song goes 'Joxer the Mi-ghty, he's very ti-dy!' Given the amount of people who talk about heroically doing dishes in the tavern, it seemed apropos. 
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7/30/2013 | |
Has everyone realised we have a chat on there? On the groups tab... |

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7/31/2013 | |
It pops up with a little black message bubble under our name and options when we've got a new message from a fellow Albian Adventurer! 
One of the tips I've seen is to only run it when you're entering data, don't leave it on in the background - do you find that helps?
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7/31/2013 | |
I've noticed it tends to throw flash errors, and sometimes hang the browser, if I keep the window open. I only nornally do that if I've got a bunch of computer-related dailies I'm trying to get through, when I use the list in HabitRPG. But it seems more reliable to update it through the smartphone app. (The only problem with the Android app is that you have to open the website at least once, because it needs the scripts to run to update the stats. After that it's fine.) |

Malkin
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8/8/2013 | |
Aha, maybe I should have asked the birthday fairy for a durable smartphone... oh well. 
Nutter, say you had a weekly appointment, where would you tend to enter it in HabitRPG, and how? Is it a 'to do' or a 'daily' chore which only works on a certain day?
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8/8/2013 | |
If it's something that you really want to get done, and it happens on the same day every week, I'd put it in Dailies. If it doesn't matter if it gets done, but you want a reminder, put it in To Do. The thing to remember is that you only lose hit points from uncompleted dailies (as far as I'm aware - I haven't tested it, but I usually have quite a lot outstanding on the To Do).
If you have something you want to do at somepoint in the week, but doesn't matter which day, I'd just pick any day, then change the day to the current one when you actually do it. It will count for XP whichever day you do it, but you'll get your hit points reduced if you don't do it on the day it's live. (Yes, this is a sneaky way to reduce hit point loss if you're having a bad day! ) |

Malkin
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8/8/2013 | |
I've managed to score myself a couple of weekly appointments for the foreseeable future, and I really need to attend those, - I'm hoping that I can find a setting that has both carrot and stick so that I can feel really accomplished about keeping them.
It sounds like setting the appts as a 'daily' task, but having the daily thing only active on the days I have the meeting is the way to go. Thank you! 
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8/8/2013 | |
You can also set yourself a "reward" under Habits. I've got an anti-procrastination reward - if I have the option to put something off, and really want to (and maybe nearly do) but get whatever it is done anyway, I claim the anti-procrastination reward. Having it under Habits means it doesn't trash HP if I don't do it, but it's there as an extra if I do. |

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8/10/2013 | |
I think I may have levelled up (finally!) and it's unlocked a 'weapons shop' - do you have any advice on what items to get first?
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8/11/2013 | |
Depends how things are working out. Generally, armour reduces hit point loss, whereas weapons increase experience point gain. So if you've not got many dailies but you do them all, go for weapons; if you've got more dailies (therefore more opportunities for XP, but also a greater danger of HP loss) go for armour first. |

Malkin
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8/15/2013 | |
Thanks! 
I've been sick with the flu, so I think I've managed to 'check myself into the inn' - how does that feature work?
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8/15/2013 | 1 |
Just pauses the dailies, so you don't lose any HP. When you check out, it carries on from where you left off. |

Malkin
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8/20/2013 | |
So, I thought I'd checked myself in to the inn, but I checked the site today to find out that I'd died and now I'm back to level 1. Is there a max time you can stay in the inn, or did it just not take on the server?
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8/20/2013 | |
I don't think there's a maximum time - everything I've read says to check in there if you need a break. I did have the same thing happen to me, and thought it might have been because I checked it remotely with the Android app. When you click the green button, text on it changes from "Rest at the inn" to "Check Out of inn". These days, I set it, go out, then go back in again to make sure. |

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8/24/2013 | |
Thanks! For future notice - if you check off a daily while you're resting in the inn, it won't uncheck itself the next day, if you rest more than 24 hours.
The server for the site has been recently upgraded, it's much more reliable now! 
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8/24/2013 | 1 |
Marvellous! I've been so busy this week I haven't logged into it at all, but have comforted myself with the thought that if I'm that busy, something must be getting done!  |
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9/10/2013 | |
How's everyone doing? I know magpie-angel's been freaky busy, but how about NimhsLab? Are you still using it?
It just occurred to me today that part of the problems I've been having lately are due to having a custom day start - I'd put this to 3am, to make sure I didn't miss recording anything if I stayed up late, but it meant that I was being penalised for things I thought I didn't have to do. Makes sense if you think about it - a task is off for day 1 but active for day 2, so it doesn't get done on day 1. But the task becomes active at midnight on day 2, and at 3am the task statuts is evaluated - it hasn't been done, so the penalty is applied. This is at least part of the reason I've died so often on the current level! Midnight's a stupid time to still be working, so I've gone back to having that as the default time. |

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11/2/2013 | |
The new challenges system is now live - don't forget to check out the Creatures Caves challenge! 
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11/3/2013 | |
You do realise that's going to stop me posting cobs in batches, don't you? xD |

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11/5/2013 | |
It wasn't intended to! You can check off the bonus every time you post a cob - so if you post five or six cobs at a time, you can collect the bonus five or six times that day. If you do the work, you should get the bonus! (And likewise, if I go on a spree, I can also collect the bonus multiple times a day.)
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