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Development Forum Rebalancing muscle toxin    For Science! InsanityPrelude      6/24/2013 I ran across this post recently and found out something I hadn't been aware of: the way muscle toxin works, it can't stop until the norn's muscles are completely destroyed. It breaks down into lactate, which also attacks the muscles and doesn't appear to break down at all. Incidentally, this means other things that produce lactate (near-drownings, hunger for carbs according to the wiki) would result in constant muscle damage as well. I regard this as a bug or an oversight- I doubt CL intended it to be unstoppable! (Although then again, look at ATP Decoupler...) I'm thinking of adding a tweak to the genomes I use to fix this, but I'm not sure which way to go about it would be better/more interesting: give lactate an actual half-life, or whip up a couple reactions to break it down properly (according to wikipedia, our bodies remove it by converting it to pyruvate or glucose). Or maybe both? And what sort of half-life would be reasonable for it- maybe a minute, same as muscle toxin? Edit: A bit of testing with the xray and the biochemistry set confirms lactate doesn't break down, and at half the maximum concentration of it the poor lab rat's muscles were destroyed in just under seven minutes. So yeah, muscle toxin is nastier stuff than advertised.   Moe     6/24/2013  3 An interesting find. I swear we need a Docking Station 2.0 with updated genes and the myriad of other fixes the community has produce as standard.   Puddini   6/24/2013 A DS 2.0 with all the improved and changed stuff would be awesome, don't cha think? Plus with the new Warp Don and Ham5ter are working on it would be the best thing.   Feddlefew   6/24/2013  1 Toxins only seem to exist in "petty annoyance" or "absurdly lethal" verities, although a lot of these problems seem to come from norns not having a way to remove toxins from their system, even if in the form of toxins being used up while they cause damage. I've found that, because the most immediately lethal effects of toxins are controlled by the immune system, heavy metals can actually prolong a norn's lifespan, until a vital organ fails and they die from being unable to do the associated reactions.   Senior Wrangler Nutter   6/25/2013  1 Well, that is true of tiny quantities of arsenic - acts as a tonic. And mercury in small amounts (like from teeth fillings) suppresses or outright kills internal parasites. So maybe not as bizarre as it first appears.

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