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Spykkie

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  6/12/2013  2

I'm not perfectly happy with where I am in life right now, but I'm not sure if it's worth risking everything I do have to try and get somewhere better, or if it would even be that much better?

So this is a forum spot for people who have felt this way before, what they did and how it turned out.


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KC11

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  6/12/2013

I'm in a similar position. All of my life my parents have pushed me to take a science degree, saying they would pay for nothing else in college, but I'm finding I'm much more artistic really. I've taken plenty of science classes so far (I just finished my two year Associates) and while they have been interesting I really can't see myself spending another two years taking these same classes.

I am a writer first, last, and middle. So I think I want to go for a Creative Writing degree. I'm not sure if that will really be good for me, or what my parents would think.


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mfb

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  6/12/2013  2

Risk/benefit analysis. Consider your options and what you stand to gain and lose in each contingency -- you may be surprised to find how often you have nothing to lose. (Eat lunch first; an empty stomach is a tiny Chicken Little that wants to convince you everything is terrible forever.)

I ended up moving across a continent and I'm not entirely sure where I'm going, either -- but my analysis assures me that wherever I end up, it'll be better than if I'd stayed. And is anyone ever really, totally sure where they're going in life? That's not to say to throw caution to the wind, but I'd keep it in a windsock at best.

I hope you all find your way and confidence in it. :)


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Emzie

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  6/12/2013

I understand, I'm kind of stuck in a not so great situation right now. I almost left, but changed my mind for many reasons. I'm still not sure it was the right choice to stay, but I think I'll be ok.

It's all about weighing pros and cons, and deciding if it's really the right thing to do at the right time.

 
Spykkie

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  6/12/2013

So very true!
Risk analyzing or weighing pros and cons are helpful most of the time.

What I'm most afraid of is failing at what i attempt and losing what little stability I do have. I'm so tired of job hunting, but I'm not happy with the job i have anymore either.

Too many things changed, the dynamic changed, the mood changed, attitudes changed... I'm sure they're doing what's best for the company, but... the pay cut hit me like a brick after I was promised a raise last year. More stress, new job definitions and less money. Not a winning combination! It's no wonder moral is so low and grumbles rumble about!

What I'm doing about it:
I'm keeping an ear open for job opportunities and I'm considering attempting freelancing. It's not much of a plan, but it's a start. :)

I want to own a house some day...


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Nutter
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  6/12/2013

It took me 20 years to realise that I can't do a 9-5 in an office, and another couple to realise that 9-5 is less doable than 12-10 with a couple of hours off in between! But I'm still stuck doing a job (albeit self-employed) that I would prefer not to do - but it's the only thing I do that will earn money. So I can either retrain (expensive) or retrain/develop within the same field - without much motivation, because I don't want to be doing it.

If you have something you know you want to do - go for it. I know it sounds like a cliché, but do what you love. You'll be energised enough to make it work for you. Sticking with something you can do, but don't love, is pointless - you'll never be at the top of your game, because you'll be outclassed by people who want to be doing what you're just sticking with. Doing what you want - even when it's challenging - is always easier than doing what you feel you should do, because that's always draining.

 
Ilaezha

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  6/12/2013

I totally agree with Nutter. KC11, my mom is the only one helping me with college costs when she can but the rest of it is me getting scholarships and loans and working a job to do what I love (art) rather than what most people do, which is getting the sciencey/math degrees that pay well. I think it would be more worth it to take classes that you pay for especially when it's something you love to do. My art college's motto is "Live what you love." KC11, I hope you figure out what you need to do next while getting a fun and useful education. :)
 
NimhsLab

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  6/12/2013  1

I guess I'm really lucky, because I love science, and am planning on getting a degree that will let me deal with genetics.


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Spykkie

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  6/12/2013  2

If only we all knew what that thing is for us, we'd be set! [nlaugh]

I'm glad people started replying to this thread. :) When I checked the forums on my lunch break and saw there were no responses, i started to worry I might have brought up something a bit too serious for this forum...

It's good to know you're not alone.
Hopefully talking about it will help everyone feel a little better and maybe even find their way. :)


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Spykkie

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  6/12/2013

That's great NimhsLab!
If you know what you love, then go for it like nutter said. :)


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generalflame

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  6/12/2013

My boyfriend and I both recently quit our good 9-5 jobs for the sake of our sanity. Our car broke down, we ran out of money and almost had to move back into my parents basement. Neither of us regret it.

The thing is, you kind of have to ask yourself "Do I want to be stable, or do I want to be happy?"

Now, things aren't perfect for us, far from it, and I can't say that we're really "happy" yet, but we had to leave where we were in order to start in a new direction. Change is scary, but I think if you really know deep down that where you are isn't right for you, you gotta do SOMETHING.

We got part time jobs and started our own business. We may not be as financially stable as we were, but now we at least have the chance to work toward what we want rather than be stuck with what we don't want.

 
TheSecond

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  6/12/2013  5

Some twenty years ago, I felt pretty much that way. Completely fed up with my job, family, and suffering from a nasty breakup.

I decided that I had a choice: I could either stay where I was and continue wallowing in my anger and depression, or I could do something drastic. I decided on the latter, packed up some clothes and basic essentials, said my goodbyes, and went west.

Somewhere around El Paso, the carburetor in my second hand Cevy Beretta caught fire, leaving me stranded for the night. The next morning, an old man on a tractor was kind enough to tow me to his house and call a mechanic out to fix me up. In Arizona, the carb caught fire a second time, though I was able to limp at about fifteen miles per hour until I reached the nearest town, where I sold the car for $800 to a dealer and hitched a bus. Somewhere between Arizona and California I lost my wallet. I arrived in Santa Monica with two-hundred dollars and the clothes on my back.

I spent a couple of months bumming on the beach, then decided that vacation time was over. I found work as a telemarketer, then as a desk clerk at a motel, and saved enough for my first apartment.

It was a struggle at first, I didn't always have money for food, rent was always a week or two late, entertainment was a battered Gameboy, Pokemon Blue, and all the books I could afford from the second-hand bookstore... but if I had it to do all over again, I would in a heartbeat. I was able to experince things, people and cultures I never would have had a chance to in my tiny, one-horse home town.

So, what con you take from my experience? Starting over isn't easy. It isn't fun. But so long as you never give up, kick, scream, demand, and sometimes even beg and plead, you can do it. There is no obstacle so big that you can't overcome it. I know.


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Spykkie

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  6/12/2013  1

The second, If i were ever to live the story you described my stress levels could probably be seen from space!! [nscared]

I'm glad things worked out for you though. :)


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Ilaezha

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  6/12/2013

TheSecond, that is a really great and inspiring story. Thanks for sharing! I think we can all learn something from your experience.
 
Mioonktoo

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  6/12/2013

Spykkie wrote:
The second, If i were ever to live the story you described my stress levels could probably be seen from space!! [nscared]



Liked because I'd be in the same boat, with an irate mum glaring at me from the opposite end.


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Trell
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  6/12/2013

Oh my gosh, wow. [nsurprised] That is amazing.

I wish I could be like that with school. :\


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NimhsLab

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  6/13/2013  2

Wow, TheSecond, you are officially the most intense person I know. You took life by the horns, and wrestled it into submission. You deserve an award, like, the "I am my own person, forget the haters." award, or something.

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TheSecond

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  6/13/2013  1

Spykkie wrote:
The second, If i were ever to live the story you described my stress levels could probably be seen from space!! [nscared]

I'm glad things worked out for you though. :)



Skykkie, it's all about attitude, and the choice to either let life beat you down or beat life down. It ain't easy by any stretch of the imagination, but by god it feels good once you succeed.

The most important thing is that first step. But once you take it, the next one is easier, and the one after that is easier still. Just make sure that you're going in the direction you want to go. And don't stress if at first you don't succeed, because you'll have tried, and you can try again, and again. So long as you draw breath you can keep trying until you have life by the neck asking what it can do for you today.


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Spykkie

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  6/13/2013

I don't know which direction 'I want to go', but i do know I'm not made for large cities. A giant place where no one smiles is no place for me... :(

So at least I have that much to build upon? :)


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C-Rex
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  6/13/2013

You could always try migrating to the countryside, but of course rural houses are usually more expensive than urban houses, at least in the UK.
 
TheSecond

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  6/13/2013

You don't have to follow my example to the letter. :P Like I said, it's your life, you choose the direction. You just need two things, a direction to go, and the courage to take the first step.

Maybe what you need now is an extended vacation rather than a relocation. Take a week/month/as much time as you are able and take some time to relax and think. You'd be amazed how much a change of scenery can help you find a new perspective. think about what you really want in your heart of hearts. No thinking about family or friends, be selfish. Think about what you would do if it was just you, no responsibilities except three meals a day and a roof over your head.

Disclaimer: I am an impulsive decision maker, am stubborn enough to take sleeping on a beach over asking family for help, and am very self sufficient. If you lack those qualities, then don't do as I did. You may want to ask family and friends if they'd help you plan the next stage in your life so that when you do realize what it is you want you'll be ready and able to move in that direction with minimal risk.


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Spykkie

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  6/15/2013  1

C-Rex wrote:
You could always try migrating to the countryside, but of course rural houses are usually more expensive than urban houses, at least in the UK.



I'm in a small town right now and i like it here. :) If only there was more work available in arts...


@TheSecond: I know you didn't mean it like that, I was just saying it probably wouldn't work well for me, haha.

Sadly i can't take time off until around September when the tourism season ends and my job goes on hold for another winter. In the mean time though, I've started planning the things i'll need if i find the guts to try freelancing next winter! :) being ready for it would sure help once i decide to dive in.


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Karias
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  6/15/2013

In most of the US, rural houses are faar cheaper than living in the city. Or perhaps they're just less of a rip-off than living in the city. The way I see it, you either pay over 200 grand for a tiny house on a tiny lot that makes home feel like your work, or you pay the same amount for whatever size house on a place larger than 3 acres, which to most people is a LOT of land. Now, of course, most don't know what to do with it though which is just the truth that comes with most people being city-dwellers.

Anyway back on topic, I think everyone at some point gets to those stuck and questioning moments in life. I wonder it waay too often, as I have a pretty nice but also pretty hectic job(s) at the same time, and it's all pretty much what happened to me instead of some career I chased or dream job I went through years of college for. I run a farm and nursery at the same time but also during my hours not working outside, I also paint, write, sculpt, and sell said works for a living. My job to many people might seem like the retired life or the good country life, but, there's a LOT of downsides to it including having literally no social life, living with my parents, getting paid very little, and having pretty much no way out. I wouldn't trade this for anything but a better operation, but I also feel really stuck. I think the main issue though, really, is sadly to say the fact of still living with parents. It's not the funnest thing to admit. I run my own life, but, they did buy the place, and as much as I'd like to get my own operation to run - I can't really earn up enough to do so and just leave this. I run it all pretty much on my own, so naturally there's a LOT of work I put into it that I can't just leave. And it really is nice. The money needed to get another like it would require suddenly working harder to earn a ton more than normal, or working at a different higher paying job for a while, which means giving up working here as it really is a full-time job, then finally earning up to get my own place and starting all over, which for things like orchards and greenhouses takes years. And I'm an impatient person.

But I must confess, through all the stress and et cetera I've gone through in the years, - I'm glad I'm out here in the country and not stuck in an apt. or the suburbs.

In a nutshell though, and as a conclusion, I really do see myself staying in this situation and just trying to work hard enough to prove to my parents to finally have a little more control and privilege. My only worry is their yearly ideas on moving somewhere else. Yeah sure that's nice but if they move and I tag along, - I've got to start all over again. And that I just wouldn't like.


-Karias; a bit fruity and gone bananas in the wrong climate! :D
 
Spykkie

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  6/15/2013  1

Karias, have you thought of auctioning your sculptures/paintings on ebay or a similar place? If your paintings are good and you put the base price you want for it, you might be able to get more out of your work from people who love art online? Just a thought. :)

I've never actually sold things online (yet?),but some of my friends have and it helped them get a little extra side money at times when they needed it.

As for living in your parent's house, it's actually more and more common... young workers are paid little, because they "lack experience" (which is a bull's excuse. even freshly graduated from college i knew more about the graphic design programs we were using then a 30+ years veteran. "no experience" doesn't equal stupid or useless.) and housing prices keep going up. Don't feel embarrassed about it, just keep putting money aside and work towards getting your own place. You'll get there. :)


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Karias
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  6/15/2013

I sell things online, my problem there is not having enough time and motivation lately to make enough. I sell plenty once they're made though.

As for other jobs, thing is I was going for paleontology, forensic sciences, or 3D animations - But a long story short is that the staff/faculty at my old highschool messed up my college plans, so, I pretty much stayed home the first summer, then suddenly found myself getting more and more into the things I do now for a living. I'm actually loving my current jobs FAR more than I'd imagine loving my "dream" careers, but there's also a lot of downsides too. They both have their pros and cons.

I still study paleontology plus do paleo-art, and I still do 3D special effects which is a nice thing to know, I just don't do either professionally. Which, I guess isn't terrible.


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Pann
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  6/17/2013

Sometimes I feel this way too.

I'm 22 years old and still haven't learned to drive. I don't know, I think it's been fear holding me back. Where I live, Florida, people drive pretty badly. I recently learned it's one of the worst states with drivers, too. I suppose that didn't help my fear any. My parents, who I still live with, probably don't take me seriously sometimes. I am still in college, yeah...I'm in this college that used to be a community college, but recently they changed the name of it, to a "state" college, but it still runs the same. I'm almost done with it...I hope, anyway.

Then there's the next step. Moving out with my boyfriend.

Originally I was planning to only get an apartment once I transfer to the next university, which is in Illinois, but now we're considering getting an apartment before all that. I know it'll take a lot of saving up for this big plan too.

Anyway I'm rambling. I think I'm just really nervous. We both still need to learn to drive, and then drive all the way across the country with our stuff to Illinois, since a friend is there and suggested getting the stuff that way be easier than taking a plane or something. Maybe I'm just underestimating myself with this, and it's not like I'll be alone.

I know, you're probably wondering why I'm not going to a university in Florida. The thing is, I've looked and can't find any decent illustration programs in this state. The Art Institutes are a huge ripoff and a bunch of scams I read, and Ringling College of Art and Design is a private school that costs way too much money, so I decided on my friend's college. It is a big, big move, but I think I might enjoy being in a new place like that. My boyfriend has never been outside of Florida, either, and he doesn't care for the hot weather here.

I get doubts and worry though, if I'll ever really be good at art to make for a living. I sometimes lack so much motivation that I worry when I make art for money, will I really enjoy it?

I think though, once I really get far ahead in this skill, my mind will change. I do enjoy it very much once I get in the zone. I've just been so artblocked lately it's been dull for me trying to make anything.

Sorry, I didn't intend for such a big textwall! It turned out to be fears of the future mostly I guess, ahhh. Now you know my plan, haha.


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Nutter
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  6/17/2013  2

It's got to be worth a try, Panda-mist. It's not like you haven't thought stuff through, and you've got friends where you're going. If the art thing doesn't work out, you've still got extra skills that will enrich your life. My sister won a scholarship to go to art college when she left school, but my parents were so thoroughly unsupportive, because they didn't see art as a "proper" job. She went into a job in a totally unrelated field, and always regretted it.

Oh, and don't worry about the driving, you've got plenty of time. I was 37 when I passed my test. :)

 
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  6/17/2013

Thanks Nutter. I know some people get a late start with driving. I guess sometimes I feel like my dad doesn't take me seriously since I can't just drive anywhere I want.

Yeah, that's unfortunately what a lot of people are told, that art isn't a "real job." That's a load of nonsense, who creates the art people see every day in ads and everything? It's definitely a job. It's not easy getting in, this I know, but it's not impossible. I know of one artist who makes a lot of money online getting people to commission her. I hope I can do something like that one day.

My parents wanted me to be a nurse for a while, then join the Navy. But I know if I did those things I wouldn't have fun. Mom isn't really hard on me about that anymore, but dad was for far longer. He thinks money is more important than doing something you love. :(


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Spykkie

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  6/17/2013

Panda-mist: yes.... we know your plan now...! MUAHAHAHAHA!! Now we can send our army of ninjas to make it easier for you and guaranty your success!! YOU'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING!!! *thunderclaps*

But honestly, it's normal to be afraid of the unknown. That's why science and technology exist in the first place! Fear can be paralyzing if you let it, but it can also be a driving force to learn if you stand up and take things at your own speed.

The way we deal with it differs from person to person, but for worryworths like me, something that helps a lot is making the unknown less unknown. By that I mean, clear up as many variables as you can through thinking things out or trying things out for yourself. Figure out your work rhythm, your more productive environment; when you figure out a way to make things fun for you, you stop worrying about the possibility of not enjoying it. :)

If you're not sure arts are the right career path for you, test drive it.
Pretend you ARE working in arts. Look online for what a client might ask for (Not what you like to draw) and try to make something to fill their request/need. Pretend they're not satisfied with the result, how do you feel? how do you react? what do you do?

This is the best early test drive anyone considering arts should give a try to.


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