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 Caves Dweller Rascii   Administrator  |
I just stumbled upon a C4 trailer and screenshots that I hadn't seen before over at Bigben Interactive's Creatures 4 page. Additionally, the page mentions "A Collector Edition including a Norn with a unique genetic code, a figurine, the three original games and the equivalent of 20 euros in your virtual wallet". Sounds like a great deal to me.  It also explains more about the platforms and gameplay: "Fully bridged (iPad® / iPhone® / PC / Mac® / Android): start a game on your computer, keep playing on your smartphone!"Check out the new screenshots and the trailer! I think I even saw a grendel during the gameplay... - Rascii |
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 Feddlefew |
I see a couple new phenotypes in the screenshots- I have to say those pointy ears are adorable! |
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 Bifrost |
Judging by the trailer and the screenshots, I think really like how it appears that the norns will be climbing to get between levels (though I hope there will be lifts and teleporters as well) and the facial animations of the norns look awesome. But all in all, the world looks way to childishly textured, making the game all over seem less appealing to an older audience, which is sort of a shame, considering all of the long-term players that have past their teens some years back... |
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Feddlefew |
It looks like Cr2 kisspopped CA, in terms of color pallet and background design elements, to me. From what I've seen of the hatchery area the entire game isn't nearly as bright and colorful as the tree house is. |
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 Patient Pirate ylukyun Manager |
I can't see the trailer  Maybe it will work in Firefox.The dark blue Norn on the page is pretty, reminds me of male Astros but less themed. |
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 Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
I can't see it either, probably because I'm using a crappy phone browser. |
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 Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
I'm using Firefox and it doesn't work for me either. ![:\](/images/smilies/confused.gif ":\")  |
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 Jessica |
I can view it, but I also think this is the same video found on YouTube. Let me know if I'm wrong, though! I still think all of the screenshots are new, and I never did stumble across this page. Good find, Rascii! I rather like the idea of the different personality traits that are quickly mentioned, and shown in one of the screenshots. I really, really hope that these Norns have personality traits that make them like or dislike doing certain things. I know that it's probably not as focused on artificial intelligence/life and might be more preprogrammed, but still... Unique Norns make me happy! |
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 Geek2Nurse |
They keep talking about "artificial intelligence." Creatures isn't AI, it's artificial LIFE. If they don't even get that concept, I have little faith they can produce a Creatures worthy of bearing the name. Am I being too pedantic? Or maybe it's the crotchety old woman in me, who is stuck in the past and still thinks Zork was the best computer game ever made. --- Optimist: the glass is half full. Pessimist: the glass is half empty. Engineer: the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. |
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 Officer-1BDI |
The music in the trailer sounds like it was borrowed from Glee. I'm still really disturbed by the whole "punish your norns by slapping them across the face" thing. The blue norn on the front page does look cute, but the trailer didn't do much in terms of changing my opinion of the game's potential. Additionally, the page mentions "A Collector Edition including a Norn with a unique genetic code... Aren't all of the norns supposed to have a "unique genetic code", or are they talking about a new breed? You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there. -- Jim Adkins |
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 Wiimeiser |
The trailer loads for me but lags like trying to play Minecraft on a NES. I think it may be incompatible video cards because mine causes bluescreens when I'm on Youtube. Bigben mustn't be up-to-date... And "Other images" doesn't work for me... EDIT: It appears the video isn't buffering. It's using either a very old (like over 14 years) or very new (less than 3 months) method of loading... Hashikin ko Tyni Kong Taria Haju'Rumia'an Klodz'Proddi. Terdish oxen saur yessi atai Kongo Dolpik! |
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Caves Dweller Rascii Administrator |
Yes, that YouTube video is the same video, Jessica.  Do you guys think it's a grendel at 0:51? - Rascii |
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Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
I think that's a Norn Rascii, although I do think it does look a bit reptilian (and ugly!) though because of its small ears, big goofy smile and large eyes. XD |
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Geek2Nurse |
The slapping in the face thing bothered me too, Officer-1BDI. I even had myself believing I must have seen it wrong. --- Optimist: the glass is half full. Pessimist: the glass is half empty. Engineer: the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. |
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 mfb |
I'm okay with the face-slapping specifically because it makes me uncomfortable -- it seems like a stronger negative visual feedback to hitting your norns than the euphemism of 'spanking'. (ie: Beating Living Things Is Wrong In General, Don't Do That.) I'm more curious about the whole possible-delay thing. That would definitely make CCSF scheduling interesting. Shee Tea Shop |
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Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
I think that Fishing Cactus should add a special feature where if you smack a Norn in the face extra-hard, its head falls off and can be played with, like a ball, by the other Norns, earning you an achievement. XD Also, whats this about the possible delay thing? I really hope I don't have to wait even longer for the game to come out. |
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Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
Another delay would be a bummer, but I hope they take as long as they need to. I'd rather not see a repeat like we had with C2 and the buggy, OHSS-prone Norns that came with it! |
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 Malkin Manager |
Does anyone know what 'a strong license' means? My TCR Norns |
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Geek2Nurse |
I wondered that same wonder, Malkin. --- Optimist: the glass is half full. Pessimist: the glass is half empty. Engineer: the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. |
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Feddlefew |
I think it means that the creatures IP has been strong throughout the series. |
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 Hebi |
Anyone is worried about the whole "PEGGI 3+" thing? I mean, when you know that The Sims is 12+ for almost no reasons, 3+ screams "childish game". Ooooooooooweeeeeeeeeeoooooooooo |
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Feddlefew |
Ehhh..... The sims has sex and nudity in it. Creatures has had the 3+ ratting for almost the entire series, if I recall right. I think Minecraft would have about a 3+ rating too, and it's not a "childish" game, right? |
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Caves Dweller Rascii Administrator |
As long as it hasn't stooped down to the "Creatures Adventures" level, I'll probably be fine with whatever maturity level Creatures 4 exudes. - Rascii |
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Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
Lol, no reason? Yeah... sex, nudity, alcohol, people screaming while they're burning to death... I think The Sims deserves its rating.  The gameplay "style" we see in the C4 previews definitely doesn't look much like Creatures Adventures... or at least, it doesn't look so goofy, and apparently you can interact with the environment as well as creatures? |
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Hebi |
I don't really see much to judge the gameplay when I watch the trailer to be honest. It mostly tells you that they can reproduce, be punished and taken care of. The colours are bright and the design is obviously aimed at children more than adults, though we could argue that Creatures 1, 2 and 3 all had this childish look while still being incredibly complex games. We'll wait and see what the game will be like, but it does have a childish look to it right now. And perhaps it has something to do with cultural taboos or stuff like that, but I definitely don't think that the "PG-rated" drugs, sex, nudity (pixels, no nipples, no genitals, really?), alcohol, fights or funny deaht deserved the 12+ rating. The Sims have always seemed to be a pretty funny and family friendly game to me, though I do not think it would appeal much to children since it can be a pain the neck to control the needs of your sim when you're too young to understand. Creatures always had its lot of "bad stuff" as well, there's sex... admittedly, kisspopping is incredibly g-rated, but it's all about chemicals and biological functions (basically, norns are even more sexual creatures than sims)... there's alcohol and it's more obvious than in The Sims, there's also toxic stuff, potential torture (chemicals, slapping), potential violence, DEATH (how is drowning your norn, putting it into the piranha pond or open the airlock better than killing your sim in a fire?). Now, for some reasons, Creatures seems more child-friendly than The Sims, probably because there are no human beings in it and the creautres are cute, but I'd argue that : 1- it definitely isn't so cute, 2- it is even more complex and appealing to adult that The Sims will ever be. Ooooooooooweeeeeeeeeeoooooooooo |
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Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
I don't think it's fair to say that bright colors automatically means a game is for children. There are plenty of games with bright colors that aren't geared toward kids--and I remember someone else mentioned that the other areas don't appear to be as colorful as the treehouse, so it doesn't necessarily reflect the scheme for the entire game. Creatures 4 may turn out to be less like a child's game than the rest of the series if they keep some of the details they apparently have so far, like slapping a Norn in the face to punish them. That's a tad more violent than spanking them on the bum, and the polar opposite of the spray bottle used in Creatures Adventures. A lot of Sims deaths aren't funny. Do you really find watching a Sim scream in agony as they burn to death to be funny? I'm several years out of high school and it still gives me the creeps. If a Creature is in pain, the worst they do is give a little yelp and look surprised; if they die, they do so quietly with a whimper, or are hidden from view. Although the ways in which Creatures and Sims can die may be roughly equal (eg. they can both drown), Creatures don't show the same emotional depth that Sims do. The same is basically true for 'reproduction'--having two Norns kiss is a lot more discreet than seeing and hearing Sims "woo-hooing" in bed. The most explicit aspect of Creatures reproduction is the use of terms like 'sex drive'. |
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Hebi |
I definitely find The Sims' deaths to be hilarious most of the time contrary to Creatures's one (unless I'm killing them for genetic selection). I can't play the game with the sound on because I've been basically traumatised by the noise they make when they die, I feel more emotionnally involve in Creatures, it is a "job" or a true experiment for me, unlike The Sims which is just a funny tool to create stories. (Also, I still love this game for teaching me so many things about science, reproduction, humanity, health, etc.) I do not know how Creatures 4 will be, but I'm not very enthusiastic about it mostly because the little we've seen about it didn't make it seem to be the same kind of complex scientific experiment than the other games. (And yes, the names of substances in Creatures are not exactly a matter but this is also why it makes the game so appealing and not so puerile. Kisspopping may be a way to censor sex, but they still aren't exactly shy with sexuality and I like that.) I am aware, though, that it would probably not be a good commercial argument to talk about the more complex aspects of the game and this is probably why they mentionned the Sims and Spore, which ironically have nothing to do with Creatures, but with Sim City... By the way, ratings were different when Creatures was first released, but as I recall, it was 10+ in my country (the ratings were based on complexity not only on censorship and subjective perception of violence/sex/taboo). Only Adventures was 3+. Ooooooooooweeeeeeeeeeoooooooooo |
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Geek2Nurse |
Since I daily see real people who these sorts of things have really happened to (drowning, burning, etc.) I don't find it fun / entertaining / humorous in the least. When I come home from a long day at the hospital and play a game to relax, it's definitely not going to be one like that! --- Optimist: the glass is half full. Pessimist: the glass is half empty. Engineer: the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. |
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Feddlefew |
Sims always creeped me out, personally. They acted like humans, but... |
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Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
It's June now, so we should hopefully see some more news regarding Creatures 4, or even the game's release! |
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 Lodestar Doringo |
I don't know what to say about the trailer. It seems to be pretty childish but mature at the same time. I find it rather ridiculous how the norn that comes out of the egg is 2D and shakes in an odd way, but the word "Reproduce" is on it so you know its not childs play. Critisism out of the way, I say it makes sense that there are probably no grendels because the shee were looking for a sterile place for their norns and grendels are the probable reason they tried to move the norns from albia. |
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Caves Dweller Rascii Administrator |
I hope there are grendels though. A world with no evil seems a bit.. lame. - Rascii |
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Feddlefew |
Say, in the background of the hatchery screen shot do I see a splicing or genetic sampling machine? |
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