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Development Forum Toxic norn ponderings    Malkin    Manager     2/19/2012 Cures are poisons in the toxic norn system. Antigens break down to become food (starch, protein, fat), and food remains food (and needed) for toxic norns. The plant, fruit and food stimuli give antigens exclusively, whereas the detritus and alcohol stimuli give starch, protein and fat directly. Could it be that toxic norns, when fed a diet of seeds, fruit and food stimuli, build up a 'backlog' of antigens, which they then have to process again to become usable starches, proteins and fats? Detritus has no stink (CA) in C3/DS - when toxic norns navigate the world to find foodstuffs, they can only navigate across levels to seed, fruit or food sources, not detritus or manky. My TCR Norns   Solariana   3/13/2012 Interesting thought... i like it. You're probably right on about this. ...Odd, though. I wonder why the developers didn't just assign a CA to detritus. I mean, everything else aside, rotting fruit definately isn't odorless. :x Drawing today!   Prodigal Sock Ghosthande     3/14/2012 Hmm, CA 19 is unused, isn't it? Is it usable, or was the game not set up for it? I know there's a command to link a CA to a given agent type, and fundamentally it appears to work (Norns recognize the CA and will try to seek out agents of that type using it)... the Yautja Norn pack is supposed to do that for detritus, but it uses the wrong CA. My source file told me CA 11 was unused, but apparently it IS used--for Creature Eggs. I need to patch that, but not sure if I can substitute another CA or if I'll just have to remove that feature. Perhaps if CA 19 does indeed work properly, we (or someone) could make a Toxic pack with smelly objects.   Malkin Manager     3/14/2012 I know that Amanora implemented the flower CA smell for the Butterfly Norns - I think Moe's using CA 19 in C2toDS for something, though? It's a limitation of the system - many objects, 19 smells. My TCR Norns   Prodigal Sock Ghosthande     3/14/2012 Pfft, all those unused room types and only 19 CA's? That's just sad.   Malkin Manager     4/3/2012 In Toxic Norns, the organs are attacked by antibodies, not antigens. (For example, antibodies 3 and 4 injure the central nervous system). Genes which govern other toxins attacking organs are dormant. CO gives oxygen and glucose. Fever toxin reacts with hotness to give triglyceride and water. Fear toxin breaks down to give Antigen 7. Sleep toxin reacts with sleepiness to give starch. Muscle toxin breaks down to amino acid. Cyanide gives energy. ATP Decoupler reacts with ADP to give ATP and ATP Decoupler. Geddonase gives fatty acid. Glycotoxin gives glucose. Alcohol and Dehydrogenase gives glucose and no pain. Antigen 0 and Antigen 1 break down to starch and Histamines A and B. Antigen 2 and 4 break down to fat. Antigen 3 breaks down to protein. Antigen 5 breaks down to protein and Histamine A. Antigen 6 breaks down to Starch and Histamine B. Antigen 7 breaks down to glucose and Vitamin C. Histamines A and B break down to Amino Acid and Glucose. No 'hunger for X' in stimuli genes. "I have eaten" gives 4 Antigen 0. No pain from coughing, makes them less tired and hot. No pain from sneezing, makes them less bored but slightly tired. Hunger is satisfied less from eating plant, fruit and food. Plant gives Antigens 0 and 4 (break down to starch, histamine A and fat) Fruit gives Antigens 5 and 7 (break down to protein, glucose, histamine A and Vitamin C) Food gives Antigens 2 and 3 (Fat and protein) Could routinely infecting a toxic norn at birth interfere with its ability to learn to feed itself? My TCR Norns

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