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Don

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  5/17/2012

Jessica, Wow.. nice spot! :)

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Laura
Tea Queen

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  5/17/2012

I've registered already. :D
 
Jessica

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  5/24/2012

Did anyone spot the post on Bigben's Facebook page?

"Los Angeles, June 5 to June 7 - Concourse Hall, #8301/8400
The place to discover before anyone all incredible Xmas season products: Console and Mobile Accessories, CREATURES 4 and other great games...."

To me, this either means that we should have some big news about Creatures 4 in a few weeks, or that the release has been delayed. Not sure I would classify a game coming out in June as a Christmas season product. Or maybe there are just other products being featured, along with Creatures 4! The info page still says that the release is in June 2012. Hopefully that's still holding true!


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Rascii
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  5/25/2012

You have a great eye for Creatures 4 updates, Jessica. :D Thank you for sharing them! Although if Creatures 4 gets pushed back until Christmas, I'll be severely disappointed. Waiting until Christmas feels like an eternity. :P

- Rascii
 
Feddlefew

Feddlefew



  5/25/2012

I wonder if this means we'll be getting more news soon?
 
Lenn

Lenn



  5/28/2012

they allready said they where behind schedule to make the deadline but till chrismas seems a bit to long to me so maybe it won't be released in june but maybe in Q3 of 2012 i don't care if i have to wait till september as long as it is a good game i'm happy with it

Ik zwaai met mijn handen en mijn handen zwaaien terug.
 
Rascii
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  5/28/2012

If it's released later than July, I might cry.

- Rascii
 
ylukyun
Patient Pirate

ylukyun

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  5/29/2012

Found a bunch of reviews ("previews" as FC calls them)
http://creatures4-thegame.com/en/news-54-creatures-4-previews.html

 
Rascii
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  5/30/2012

Thanks for posting that, ylukyun! I only read the first review from dealspwn.com, but it definitely made me feel positive about the upcoming game. :) And very excited!

UPDATE: Just read the second one from myth-games.com, and this sounds very promising:

mythgames wrote:
Creatures 4 is based on the code that was used to create Creatures 3. The latest incarnation of the game is designed to be more accessible for new players, but, if you're a hardcore Creatures fan you'll still be able to enjoy the depth of the original games, and you shouldn't find anything missing.



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Geek2Nurse

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  5/31/2012

Wait...what??? "Felines?"

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Rascii
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  5/31/2012

Where did you see "felines"?

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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  5/31/2012

I dunno, they referred to them as felines on their blog originally I think, but now it seems all the game sites who don't know anything about Creatures and want an article on C4 have picked up on it. Just search "Creatures 4" felines and you'll see what I mean. :\


 
Feddlefew

Feddlefew



  5/31/2012

Well, they look and act a lot like cats. The Big Ben site is spot on in its classification of norns as "omnivorous and oviparous mammals", like the platypus and echidna, provided norns are warm blooded this time around. Otherwise norns are mammal-like reptiles.
 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  5/31/2012

You mean synapsids? :P

Cold-blooded creatures could make a really cool genetic breed, actually. Maybe I'll do something like that for the Dustdevil Grendels?



 
Feddlefew

Feddlefew



  5/31/2012

I was just waking up when I posted that, so I forgeted some words and went with definitions instead.

Aren't the standard breeds cold blooded? I know that C1 and C2 norns are, but I'm not certain about C3.

I've also always thought of grendels as being the reproductive stage of a pteridophyte (seedless vascular plant)- hence the grendel "mother" in the games is actually the asexual stage.

 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  5/31/2012

Depends on what you mean by cold-blooded, I guess. C3 Norns don't usually seem to have problems with temperature, at least the worst they seem to suffer is a little shivering.


 
ylukyun
Patient Pirate

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  5/31/2012

Does the temperature gauge in C2 actually mean anything? It always shows Grendels around 89 and Norns around 92 even if they have the same genome.
 
Geek2Nurse

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  5/31/2012

I saw it here, Rascii.

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Rascii
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  6/1/2012

I never thought of norns as being cat-like. I don't like the use of 'felines' to refer to them at all. :P

- Rascii
 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  6/1/2012

Yeah, there isn't really... unless they wanted the C4 Norns to be cat-like, but that wouldn't explain describing all Norns that way, which is what they're alluding to. C1 Norns were a bit "mouselike", C2 Norns were a little like monkeys with funny ears, and C3 Norns looked a bit rabbit- (or maybe chinchilla-)like. The only really cat-like Norns I know of are the Siamese and Bengal breeds, and they were "themed" breeds. Otherwise, I can't say I really see the resemblance.


 
Karias
Sixty Third

Karias



  6/1/2012

So, curious, is my assumption that 3rd Party developments are going to be dead now with C4 correct? I mean, look at it. I don't think Worlds will be easy, nor new norn breeds. Instead of something simple to replace like sprites, it looks like it will be as "simple" as modifying things in today's modern FPS games.

-Karias; a bit fruity and gone bananas in the wrong climate! :D
 
Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  6/1/2012

LOL, like making/replacing sprites is simple?

If Fishing Cactus makes third-party development possible, which they've said they want to, this could potentially make things much easier. New objects might be a little harder, depending on how the animations work, but dragging a few vertices around is far, far simpler than creating 1,000+ individual sprites (and still having to fine tune the ATTs). Plus, anyone who can't function in the 3D development sphere is still going to have the previous games to play around with. C4 won't "kill" what we already have.



 
Karias
Sixty Third

Karias



  6/1/2012

Sprites to me are simple. I've never worked with anything else honestly, so I wouldn't even know where to begin, but if it actually requires a 3D rendering program, I'm perfectly experienced there, except, I have one that didn't cost me >$800 ;)

-Karias; a bit fruity and gone bananas in the wrong climate! :D
 
AthenaTrixl

AthenaTrixl



  6/2/2012

I'm sorry to get back onto this, but I'm furious that they called Norns "felines".

...*facepalm*

It's June and there is STILL no news about C4 from FC, or even so much a release date! Their forum ( http://www.creatures4-thegame.com/en/forum/ ) is already so overrun with spambots that I don't think anybody wants to post there.

My hopes are rapidly depleting... This has all been very badly organised.

 
Feddlefew

Feddlefew



  6/2/2012

The spambots are there because we linked to the forum, and they're staying their because FC has not assigned mods to it yet because it's not supposed to be active yet.
 
Rascii
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  6/3/2012

I think technically those forums aren't supposed to be open yet, right? Someone just stumbled upon the website?

- Rascii
 
Feddlefew

Feddlefew



  6/3/2012

Yep.

The problem is that we have a couple of links going to the pages on sites that are somewhat well trafficked, so the bots find and register on the forum, and start posting.

Since no one is around to ban them and remove their posts, the threads appear to have a steadily level of activity and replies to spam posts, which attracts more spam bots, which then post more, and so on and so forth.

I'm considering sending an email to FC suggesting that maybe they should lock down the forums registration and clear out the spam bots until they're ready to open shop.

 
Malkin

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  6/3/2012

In regards to 'feline' norns - for goodness sakes, the first pitch was for "Little Computer Ewoks"!!! "Feline" is at least a real-world animal! :)

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Rascii
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  6/4/2012

That was an interesting read, Malkin. I guess the word 'felines' just doesn't to norns justice to me though. It makes them seem more like cyber pets or something.

- Rascii
 
Malkin

Malkin

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  6/4/2012

Part of the appeal of norns is that they are norns - not cats or dogs or anything else too earthly. "Feline" fits in that norns generally have independent, intelligent and playful personalities - it doesn't sum up all that a norn is, but it helps give some of the idea to someone who's never played before.

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AthenaTrixl

AthenaTrixl



  6/4/2012

Comparing them to ewoks, or anything, during the initial pitch, or even in the manual for the first game would warrant much, much more understanding. It would, because examples help users familiarize themselves with the characters.

But Creatures has been around for an extremely long period of time, and to a long-standing player who has their hopes up for a game they've treasured being breathed new life into, suddenly comparing Norns to 'felines' in the fourth generation isn't exactly warming...

I've never looked upon Norns as being anything remotely resembling felines. At all.

That, combined with the shocking way C4 is being managed (it's June, still no news, still no updates... still no C4!)... I am a little concerned.

 
Feddlefew

Feddlefew



  6/4/2012

It's E3 week and Big Ben has a table their. Cut them some slack; this is actually pretty typical for game development from smaller studios.
 
Malkin

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  6/4/2012

Why would comparing norns to ewoks be that much better than comparing them to felines? Ewoks are ingenious tool-users who leap around in fur suits looking silly/cute. Norns have silly/cute down pat, but they're not tool users - you wouldn't rely on them to bring down the Empire. (One wonders what Origin might have yielded...Norn-brained jet fighters???)

The only advantage of norns being compared to ewoks that I can see is that it automatically gets the player's mind 'off earth' - which is perhaps best when dealing with the intelligence level of norns.

What would make for a better comparison?


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Ghosthande
Prodigal Sock

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  6/4/2012

So... Norns have more in common with housecats than with Ewoks? At least Ewoks are anthropomorphic; they are bipedal, have opposable thumbs, are furry and cute, speak a nonsense-sounding language, and are associated with treehouses, all of which also describes Norns. I don't really see any similarities between Norns and cats that would make the feline description more appropriate than the Ewok one.


 
Malkin

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  6/4/2012

In personality and in terms of their strength, the cat comparison is better. I don't think it's a perfect comparison, but I don't think it's a terrible one, either.

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