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 AthenaTrixl  |
The ability to interact with norns using actual sentences and verbal commands was an absolutely incredible feature that the players could use to issue commands, watch for the reactions, and gauge a real measure of artificial intelligence. Speaking for myself - I used this feature constantly and would feel very lost without it in a Creatures game. It really is a feature which further set it apart from games like The Sims. I worry that the feel of the game will feel too processed in the sense that the movements of the Creatures will feel very stilted and predictable. - It's an exaggerated example to make a point, but remember Norns that would seemingly move parts of their body - like an arm - up or down, or hold it, for no apparent reason - not quite sure where they're going but appearing very lifelike in the sense that all their movements seemed very random? I'm worried that that will be lost and we'll have creatures whose movements are very nice and fluid, but also very predictable in the sense that when a norn is hit or tickled for example, it may be the same programmed movement to occur each time. I just get that feeling from the demos so far. Roll on Monday! <3 |
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 Feddlefew |
The news is up. It's mostly behind the scenes stuff, but not much in the way of creature news. 8^/ |
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 Jessica  |
Not much for Creatures 4 just yet, but I know how non-disclosure agreements can be. It's not that Fishing Cactus necessarily wants to keep everything hidden and quiet: They're required to. I was hoping for a little tidbit, but more waiting is on the way! Hopefully we'll hear lots in March: Sounds like that might be the time when a big Creatyres 4 post could come out! |
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Feddlefew |
I know their hands are tied. I can't imagine how frustrating ironing out the bugs in their games must be, lol. |
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 Don |
I was hoping for something juicy. Maybe next time  Don AmberCreatures  |
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 Malkin Manager |
In the big version of the 'after' photo, I can see a couple of screens with a volcano-like object in them... I wonder if it's for C4? My TCR Norns |
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Jessica |
Just to let everyone know, the following was stated in the most recent Fishing Cactus blog post: "Oh and by the way, Friday there will be something about Creatures 4 on the blog, so be there!" Get ready for some Creatures 4 news tomorrow! Exciting! |
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 Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
Its about time Fishing Cactus gave us an update on the development of the game! One of the things I really don't want to see in C4 is the horrible DRM that most game companies these days seem to implement to apparently "stop" piracy, which is rubbish and completely backfires! Just take Spore for example. |
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Malkin Manager |
The new character looks like the Doc from Back to the Future? My TCR Norns |
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Jessica |
The new update from Fishing Cactus can be found here. I definitely get a Doc vibe from him, Malkin! Ha ha! Although the Master Shee might not look like the Shee we've seen, I still rather like him. I'm keeping an open mind about C4: I don't necessarily believe it will be better than the other games, but I think it's important to embrace it. If nothing else, it has already breathed some more life back into the previous Creatures titles. I just hope as my general counsel, he doesn't show up too often. Anyone remember Rizzo from SimPark? Ha ha! Thank goodness for the option to turn him off! |
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Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
I don't mind the look of Master Shee, but I think he looks a little bit creepy. Still, I think he's a fun-looking character. Like Jessica, I hope he doesn't constantly pop up in-game, otherwise he'll be like Navi from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. :/ |
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 Sanely Insane RisenAngel Manager |
Am I the only one who looked at Master Shee and immediately thought, "Oh my god, it's Jak!"? Yeah, it's definitely a bit different from the Shee we're used to imagining, but it's still nice to know Fishing Cactus's heart is in the right place. Risen Angel's Creatures Blog |
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 Norngirl |
Is going just to quote what I said exact on the blog: " I agree - that dude look a LOT like Jak&Daxter , not just a bit -_-' In fact - it was the first thing that came to my mind,before I noticed other people saw it! also the color and the the way he look is also a little faint of viva pinata (that - I could say is a bit) (sure jak&daxter is my fav games - at least 1 to 3 + the jak x racing one, along with viva pinata...however theyre nothing similar to creatures - not even viva pinata XD ) I don't say the pic is bad - it's even cuter then the c4 norn themself (sorry), but it dosn't scream the shee to me,it look more like a nice and kind hearted doctor character in Jak&Daxter style (it's not only Jak ya know,go and have a look at the random character from that game,you see why Jak&Daxter comes to mind) For me - C2 statue of the shee (along with the faint hints scattered around C1 (the sunken shee statue anyone?) and the hints on C2 (laptop,the power up messages and of course,the allmighty shee statue,as stated first) will Allways be the shee for me,alien like and stuff...also I don't count the C3/DS one as that was as the original creator wasn't on board when it was made as far as I know...it also look to human as well. Also - I do know we haven't seen more then one area of C4,but that one shown isn't at all alien-like, it looks very earth-ly,big treehouse,chameleons,ladders,forest like...hopefuly the other areas is more alien like o.o still,wouldn't harm if this guy was more alien like still...perhaps he is a evolved shee..but as far I heard..shee is blue and judge by the c2 pic (and me thinks the c1 one is probably would be same) has blue color and white hair...and big alien eyes.. oh well,my corncern is not realy the shee afterall,as I seen various people thinking the shee is more human like and such...however I DO hope the norns will still get back theyre tails and theyre cuteness...also hope the other breed of norns will look entirely different - so we don't only have to mix and match same norn - just different sizes and a slight shape - such as mixing different ears,faces,tails etc - now That would surely be something cool,rather then just re-paint same similar norns in different color and textures.. as right now - it's too much mogwai-ish look to them *minus the cool ears and the big cute eyes* I know that I said may sound rude,but It's not my intention - I only want to point out things compared to the originals to how far we know about C4, but hey! All I have to say is, in the end when it's done, only then can we see if it's truly a C4 or more of a spinn off in a online version, but kinda like a CA version ;P (also note people - CA (Creatures adventure,as well playground, DID have same engine as C3,so they haven't dumbed it down,just made it more limited, just some CAOS cracking and just by use a genetic editor and open a CA norns genom,you see everything is there..just changed to be more limited!) Also yes - I do think C3 dosn't look so advanced either - because it might be more of Caos controling there as well creatures surviving based on instincts -_- I must say - C1 and C2 feel more alive because it's not so hard coded,nor isn't it use a lot of Caos script so heavily either >_> I find my C1 and C2 norns do more random things then my C3-DS ones who just eat,sleep and breed X_X and I can't help but have my reminder's again (Ive seen 2 people now posting c1 fluffyheaded fem norns as a ref of cuteness - gotta agree,I don't know anyone who disliked the fluffy/pixie line of norns) Im glad also more people is aware the tail was gone XD Now,to my norn reminder >: D **************************** *improve new norn to be more...nornish?* http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h78/Getchuz/Compare_norn__ngirl.png *C4 vs mogwai - where is the tails* http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h78/Getchuz/Fusionofnorn-mogwai_WhereisTail.png *all past norns* http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h78/Getchuz/Norns_.png *************************************************** sorry fishing cactus - but we want norns,not mogwai norns XD Im still gonna lurk around for news of C4 and see what the result may be in the end :3 may it be a spinn off, another creature yet with none creature feel to it or basicaly a (hopefuly) fun time sapper,I just have to wait and see the final look of it,but a true C4? well I don't think I can consider that - duo to it's online,leveling,using external payments along with never ever be able to own the game (even as being playable as offline) , 5 areas,not be able to go to a nursery and pick and hatch own egg (as far I know) and in fact - not even grendels are from the start ...^^' *ettins? well yes those too,but if we go way back to C1 - no ettins ;P ) There might be more I could keep finding what makes the creature formula here..but with those things missing, dosn't feel truly C4 to me,and some may agree with me (and maybe some don't?) well thats all I can say - Not that I know if you care to read what I have to say? XD Also if you do - I hope you guys will feel not offended, is just pointing it out from a true creatures fan.... (note: if something is typed in crazy - it's because im a fast typer ,so blame it on my keyboard ;P ) " ************************* Now,you can either agree with me...or well..*shrugs* not XD But yes...Is it only me who thinks they got insperation of random games/movies here? *jak&daxter,mogwai from gremlins,the doc from back to future...viva pinata.. O.o..hmm and some say uncanny valley...what that is now) Also -I agree with what AthenaTrixl said ... Edit my miss spelling with "hope you will be offended" and "she" >_> I was going to have a "dont be offended" grr >-< and "shee" not she -_-' |
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Don |
The new Shee is in the style of the rest of C4. I wonder how he'll feature in the game. Don AmberCreatures |
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 Patient Pirate ylukyun Manager |
Maybe a shee bred with a human. Kinda cute, but I also hope he doesn't intrude too much. |
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 AquaShee |
I personally like him a lot. He does look like Jak or the Doc, but the former more because of art style and the latter because that's what was actually intended with this particular character. Other Shee might have wildly different looks and personalities, his appearance seems to suggest they're not a one-look species like 99% of the rest of the galaxy. I'm pretty sure he'll also look a lot different once rendered in 3D, with proper lighting, a different facial expression and stuff. He bears some resemblance to both the C2 and C3 Shee. His nose looks a lot like the C3 Shee's and his glowing goggles look eerily similar to the glowing eyes on the Shee statue in C2. If a Norn looked up at it's caretaker who was wearing his lab coat and glowing goggles in a creepy laboratory, that statue would perfectly capture what it saw. Of course, as with all of C4, a lot of it is brand new and will take some getting used to for many oldschool fans. It'll also be targeted to a much larger audience, being a more casual game than the previous games in the series. The Community Scribble: make (y)our own metaroom! |
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 Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
I like him, too. Although I hate to admit it, to me the C3/DS Shee always looked a bit like a fish (and not in a flattering way), and I think we can all agree that there was really nothing personable about the Shee in C2 at all. This fellow sticks to the gyst of what we saw of the Shee in previous games, but at the same time is also a lot more personable. I feel a bit more optimistic knowing that he'll be in the game, actually; for one thing, this shows that there is a connection with the storyline of the previous games, if at least in spirit.  |
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 Officer-1BDI |
... He's not blue. :c I'm not happy with this Master Shee at all (if there's a Shee in the game, what's the point of having Hands?), but I'm picky like that and I'm trying to keep an open mind. As a character he looks like he'll be entertaining and likable, but as a Shee.... eh. You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there. -- Jim Adkins |
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Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
The color doesn't matter too much to me. The C2 Shee was gray, the C3 Shee was green... who's to say how much variation they might have in skin color? I would also have preferred blue, but the peach hue isn't bad (reminds me of the range of skin tone variation in Twi'leks, actually). It could be worse... they could've made him purple or something.  |
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Norngirl |
Ghosthande Qoute: "I think we can all agree that there was really nothing personable about the Shee in C2 at all." count me out - Im not one of the "all" XD I prefer the C2 look - it's way more alien then the horrible C3/DS human one with pointy ears and lilac ears >_> Ghosthande Qoute:"The C2 Shee was gray, the C3 Shee was green.." Wait what O.o? Green Shee in C3/DS - where is that X_X? I only seen one proper colored of the C3-DS one - he was blue and purple eyed as far I know... also No - the C2 shee wasn't grey - look at the loading screen - blue long face,black alien eyes,white hair ;O Look if you don't belive me >: O http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h78/Getchuz/Title.jpg Statue is grey because it's of stone marble.. |
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Officer-1BDI |
It could be worse... they could've made him purple or something. Honestly I might have preferred purple. XD I think I'm mostly sore because this new Shee doesn't match up with the vision of the species in my head, which is an unfair basis for a criticism because they are not catering this game to me. I had similar issues with the C3 Shee image (fur?). I managed to get over those and I'll likely do the same with this depiction.You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there. -- Jim Adkins |
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Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
I don't know why I said green--I meant to say "blue". For some reason I did think the C2 Shee was gray. Maybe I was thinking of the Shee breed... |
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Norngirl |
@ Ghosthande: Yep - that might be it ;P The fabled C1 Shee breed made by Lis Morris- comes in green and grey >: D so yeah that might be it ;P edit:I still think that breed and the c2 shee statue is most shee-ish XD |
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 Tea Queen Laura |
This is concept art, isn't it? This means it's still subject to change? I really like the Master Shee's design so far! I think he looks fresh, compared to previous incarnations, as though the Creatures series has moved away from the past and is now moving along with the 21st Century. |
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Lollipop Lord C-Rex |
I'm still wondering where Creatures 4 is actually set, is it Albia or Sphericus? |
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ProphetSix |
http://s612.photobucket.com/albums/tt204/neverchoke/?action=view¤t=creatures4_shee2.png a little more like a shee should be! more serious! |
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Malkin Manager |
I missed this in my first read-through, but Fishing Cactus also announced that they're putting more effort into the Science Kit and the plants and critters in the game - so it looks like we will have an ecosystem after all!  My TCR Norns |
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Prodigal Sock Ghosthande |
Even more reason to feel optimistic, I think. I hope they do go through with adding the capabilities for 3rd party add-ons, because I'd love to get my hands on this game's brains. The more I see, the more I want to fiddle. ![[evil]](/images/smilies/evil.gif "[evil]") |
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 Sonicfan2525 |
I personally dont like the new design of the shee. it looks very human and like your average crazy professor. It will probably grow on me in time, but for now i dont care for it. The shee in the link ProphetSix posted looks a lot better in my opinion. It is how I would imagine them if they were going to be in this game. But like I said it will probably grow on me in time. https://images.khinsider.com/Graphics/Signatures/riku111.jpg "I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay... small acts of kindness and love." - Gandalf the Grey in "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" |
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 Caves Dweller Rascii Administrator |
So... I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but I'm a bit out of the loop these days. Is there an estimated release date for this new version of Creatures? And if so, when will be released? Additionally, does anyone have the name of a contact person at the new company and/or their contact info? Thanks. - Rascii |
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Jessica |
According to the Bigben Interactive Facebook Page, Creatures 4 will be released in June 2012. Other official channels have mentioned Q2 2012, which would match up with that. There is a lot of activity over at the Fishing Cactus Blog. Andrea Di Stefano has been pretty awesome about answering directly: He often responds to most questions on the blog! There are others at Fishing Cactus who are quite responsive, too. If you would like to contact the company directly, try their Contact Us Page. I've received responses to my actual e-mails, which has been pretty neat! They're also active on Facebook and Twitter, although those aren't always considered direct ways to contact them. Thankfully, Fishing Cactus has been amazing so far in communicating with the community and gathering feedback! Hope this helps, Rascii! |
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 hotmatrixx |
My "prediction" for Creatures 4: Creatures 4 will be broken into 5 stages of difficulty. You will not be able to access the later stages, until completing earlier stages. The stages will include objectives like breeding specific colours of Norns, and who knows what else? The other thing that is going to be a major change with it, is that they will be introducing money. There is a currency in the new game, which you can use to unlock things. I mean, you even need money to start putting toys into the world. There are 2 ways to get money. One, it can be found or generated in the world, and the other is that you can actually literally by credits over the Internet. Because of this they will need to make it very closed system so that people cannot hack it and start freeloading credits. The whole point is they are trying to make money off it. I think you will find that will be quite hard to actually generate credits in-game, in order to encourage you to purchase them online. If they enable COBs or agents, everyone will have a very simple way of getting around it. Another thing that kind of worries me about it is that it's no longer developed by Creature Labs. So who knows what they are doing with the artificial life engines? I don't think they will be making any revolutionary changes to the way that the Norns actually think will behave, or at least they're making very minimal once. I think you will find the main changes are in the gameplay itself. The reason that I think that, as because of the way the Norns themselves actually think. These are issues that have been raised for a long time in the mind of the original creator, Steve Grand. In fact, that's part of the reason why he switched to the creation of Grandoids. I was talking about this with Rain just today. She summed it up beautifully well, when she said: "it's going to turn it into a common Facebook game". lastly, for now at least, I have one other concern. This is going to be an online hosted solution. How long is the server going to stay up for? I have never seen a gaming server stay up more than 5 years! (except of course for the creatures one). if we fall on the wording keep playing, but we stopped needing to spend money on it because with unlocked everything, or where just cheap and we don't want to, then who's can continue hosting the server once it's no longer profitable?  |
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Caves Dweller Rascii Administrator |
Thanks for the information, Jessica! It was extremely helpful. - Rascii |
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Jessica |
Fishing Cactus now has a YouTube Channel! Nothing about Creatures 4 is up, aside from being included in one of the branding videos. Hopefully this is where we'll see some official gameplay footage soon. Kind of hoping for something big this month... June isn't that far off! |
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 bachmeier |
Exciting! I don't think it will replace Docking Station but I am still going to play the hell out of it. Will it run on Android? It doesn't look like it. |
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