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Nutter
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Nutter



  8/31/2013  1

kezune wrote:
...what are you all doing or what did you all do to help you accelerate your language studies?

At the moment I'm doing the radio thing, on and off, to try to get a feel for the flow of the language. Also trying to translate five sentences a day from English into Welsh - it's surprising the number of things you think you can't translate, and then realise you can! And you can always substitute English vocab for extra bits you haven't learned yet.

That and trying to do a half-hour lesson every day - as everyone reckons it's much better to do little-and-often with a new skill, rather than a big hit once a week.

 
kezune
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  12/22/2013

I thought I'd revisit this by saying that Duolingo is turning out to be a great tool to learn Spanish. I only wish it also covered Russian and Japanese but there are other resources to learn those particular languages.

Has anyone else used Duolingo?


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eprillios
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  12/22/2013  1

Yep, I absolutely love Duolingo. I'm also learning Spanish, and it's quite easy to learn Spanish using it. :)

The Duolingo community is working hard to make more languages available. I can't wait until more of the world's languages are available.

I do know some sentences and words in Japanese, but it's only a little bit. It's certainly not enough to survive. :P




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Issy

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  12/22/2013  1

Yo estoy aprendieron español a escuela. Yo tomé solamente clases de honores de español, por dos años. Yo no puedo hablar y escribir español muy bien, en mi opinion. Pero mi profesor dice que yo escribo la lengua muy bien. Yo sé palabras sobre de comida, lugares, personas, tiempo (nieve), tiempo (horas y minutos), algunas animales, palabras decir cómo una persona es, y muchos más...
(No traductor usé... así que lo siento si ese es muy.. muy mal.)

In other words, I'm still learning Spanish in school, I've been taking Honors Spanish for almost 3 years. I also took it for a year when I was about 8 years old, but I don't remember much from that, haha. I'm semi able to speak it with four different accents, (Spain, Mexico, Argentina, Cuba) or at least, I can understand those people.

When learning this language it has helped to listen to music in the language, watch shows in the language, and for me, just try thinking during daily life in the language. I'm always thinking... "How could I say that in Spanish?" Id love to chat with people who speak it to get practice . [nsmile] I'm not all too great at it though. XP

I also want to learn Welsh, and I'm familiar with a few phrases. I was very happy to discover that I understood what someone posted in Welsh once. X3


Also since it appears to be a common topic, to say that you are a pencil in Spanish, you'd say:
Yo soy... ¡UN LÁPIZ! ... with or without the exaggeration. X3 Its something I saw on a show, a guy said he was Tuesday in the same manner.


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Hebi

Hebi



  12/23/2013

I'm French. I speak English fluently and I'm learning Spanish and Dutch.

I want to learn Welsh.

I'm also creating a fictional language, but I tend to forget to work on it or change things constantly.

I love languages and linguistic. :-)


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Malkin

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  12/23/2013

I'm trying Duolingo, and so far it seems like it's for people who already have some training in a language. How do I add friends in it?

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kezune
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  12/23/2013

If you want to learn more details about a word, tap on it. If it's underlined, it'll explain what the word means. :)

To add someone, go to the main menu, where you can select your course. You'll see a menu called "Weekly Leaderboard". Click the add button next to it.

You'll have a number of options to choose to add people you know. :)

My username there is the same as it is here, "Kezune".


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kezune
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  12/27/2013

I'm still practicing Spanish every day (and have developed a taste for Mariachi music as a result) and I'm finding that every teaching method I sample teaches different vocabulary and uses different methods. Real quickly, I wanted to put this little thing together to share my experiences with different learning tools.

Rosetta Stone focuses on immersion which, I suppose, works for some people. Also, the voice recognition is, pardon me, absolute garbage. If you don't use their special headset, chances are, saying the word properly might not work and sometimes, saying a different word (my husband is an excellent distraction from my study) will register successfully. By the way, many people say that Rosetta Stone is best used to compliment an existing curriculum and doesn't do well standalone. I have to agree. It took me a while to learn the difference between "Hay" and "Tiene" before I gave up and looked it up online. Crazy given how expensive it is.

Duolingo, I'm finding, actually teaches the the written language very well but doesn't do the listening and speaking portion much. At all. I'm starting to feel that I can write a Spanish novella but ask me to buy tomatoes at the local Mexican market and I'll stumble through "Por favor". You probably think I'm kidding. I suppose I shouldn't complain because it's free. Actually, I wish it taught Japanese, too.

I've also tried the sample for Pimsleur (which is absurdly expensive, I might add, hence only trying the sample) and it's lovely at forcing you to speak words. I always thought that was one of the most aspects of learning a language - speaking it. XD

However, it teaches drastically different vocabulary than Rosetta Stone and Duolinguo both. For example, instead of "espanol" I'm taught "castellano" for "Spanish" and instead of "americano" for American (USA) I'm taught "norte americano" for North American. (I'm not sure how to use accent marks on this keyboard and Pimsleur doesn't teach spelling as it's audio only).

I haven't exactly developed a preference but I'm actually finding that using the three of them together works -alright- at developing a language core. It still feels like I'm dragging my feet because I struggle with questions and I haven't learned yet how to say "My name is" or how to ask how someone is doing. Oh, but "the sky is blue"? I've got that down. Thanks learning, tools. XD


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Malkin

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  12/27/2013

I'm finding that the French edition of Duolingo wouldn't be very helpful if you were planning on travelling to a country, the lesson plan doesn't seem to cover getting from A to B. Je veux aller à la boulangerie et acheter du pain! :)

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kezune
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  1/21/2014

I have a question for an experienced Spanish speaker.

I've learned (from Pimsleur) that the way to say "No, I don't want to eat anything." is

"No, quiero comer nada." instead of "No, no quiero comer algo."

That got me thinking. English follows the same "negative" rules as multiplication. What are the Spanish rules for negatives? Is the second phrase correct?


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Issy

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  1/22/2014  1

I could be wrong Kezune, but my Spanish teacher (who is from Mexico and speaks Spanish fluently) always taught us to say it more like the second. That is, we always use the "No, no" type of thing.

The second "no" makes "don't" come in to play. Otherwise the first sentence would probably read something like this in English:

"No, I want to eat nothing."


At least that is my understanding. Could be wrong...

EDIT: I actually would have put "No, no quiero comer nada.". Not sure if that is correct but I'm pretty sure thats how she taught it to us. Spanish negatives are a bit different from English... double negatives are used as a reinforcing type of thing rather than being grammatically incorrect as with English. Again, that's just my understanding. I'm actually a bit curious now as to what is correct. xD


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kezune
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  2/17/2014

Hello again. I was wondering if anyone else was having trouble using Duolingo. I haven't been able to use it for weeks. :C

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Malkin

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  2/24/2014

It looks like they've completely revamped the website - and made the whole thing a lot slower to use. :(

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kezune
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  2/27/2014

Duolingo works for me now but is still pretty slow. In any case, I've been using Pimsleur more than anything but I still feel like every time I take a step forward, I need to take two steps back. Don't get me wrong, I've been making great strides in learning but I've hit some sort of wall and I can't keep up with unit 10. :/

Anyway, I found a free, online Spanish TV network (I guess) with a lot of shows. It's great listening to Spanish in a non-musical setting.

Here it is for anyone interested. I've been watching Cupcake Maniacs. :D


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razander
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razander



  5/5/2014

I'm also trying Duolingo for my Spanish studies. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than other language programs I've tried, including ones that cost money. Sometimes the dialogue goes mute, which is really annoying when you have to answer a question by typing what's been said. And they could do a much better job at teaching idioms. My GF listens to La Mano Peluda (The Hairy Hand), and recently we've started watching the Mexican dubs of Dragon Ball Z. It's really nice hearing the original music score. And the goofy jokes are fun too.

For those learning Japanese, I recommend using the Firefox add-on rikaichan (there's a Chrome port called rikaikun), and trying the website Lang-8. You write blog posts in the language you're learning (there's also a text field for a version in your native language), and other users make corrections and post comments. Some users have written really informative posts about their native languages. Free users can set two languages that they're learning, and premium users can set more.

 
kezune
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  5/15/2014

Staying at my in-laws' house has its perks. On my way south I grabbed my Spanish textbooks and I'll be able to get some clarification and practice from my husband's parents. His mother is Mexican and his father also speaks fluent Spanish.

Do any of you have family members or friends that speak your target language?


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razander
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razander



  5/15/2014  2

My girlfriend and her family all speak Mexican Spanish. I haven't had the time to really work on my Spanish because of moving, but here and there I bring up a few articles and try to read them with my girlfriend.

One of my favourite things to do is use vosotros verbs around my girlfriend. It sounds really, really weird to her.

 
Doringo
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  6/1/2014

I do a bit of swedish now but it's been ages since I last did.
 

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