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TheNewBlack

TheNewBlack



  10/9/2021

Hi,
After a few years hiatus, I am installing Creatures 3 on a new computer and trying to reinstall all the breeds and agents I used to enjoy. But I'm having trouble with getting a few of the breeds to work properly. I'm pretty sure most of it is due to overlapping breed slots, so I tried using ReSlot to change the breed slots, but even though the prompt says it worked, it doesn't do anything. I did manage to successfully reinstall the Draconian Norns after they got overwritten by the Zoran Norns, but no success in trying to get the Zoran Norns to work in a different slot. I am having this same problem with several different breeds. The Bunny Norns are also not displaying correctly (body data problem), and some of these breeds I can't even get the layer to inject, they just keep saying unpacking images. How can I fix this?

Also,
I wanted to update and rerelease the breed I made when I was a teen, the Spot Norns. It's been a long time since I've played. How do I unpack the agent and tweak the sprites, and put them in a different breed slot?

 
Dragoler
Wrong Banshee

Dragoler


 visit Dragoler's website: TWB Development Thread
  10/9/2021

Have you edited the genomes at all? It's not enough to just change the breed slots for the sprite and body data files, the genomes also need to be changed so their appearance genes point towards the new sprite slots.

Creator of the TWB/TCB genome base.

 
Malkin

Malkin

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 visit Malkin's website: Malkin's page at CWiki
  10/9/2021

For the Bunny Norns, have you tried the Extra ATT packs?

You can try searching the forums for 'unpacking images' to see if anyone else has had this problem in the past.

You can use Jagent's Monk to unpack the Spot Norns and Jagent's Edos to export the sprites to an image editor and ReSlot and the Genetics Kit to change them to a new breed slot.





My TCR Norns
 
TheNewBlack

TheNewBlack



  10/9/2021

Malkin wrote:
For the Bunny Norns, have you tried the Extra ATT packs?

You can try searching the forums for 'unpacking images' to see if anyone else has had this problem in the past.

You can use Jagent's Monk to unpack the Spot Norns and Jagent's Edos to export the sprites to an image editor and ReSlot and the Genetics Kit to change them to a new breed slot.





This should help me figure out how to fix the issues I'm having. Much obliged.

As for the Bunny Norns, though, I don't see an extra ATT pack for them.

How do I create a new egg file after I'm done editing the files? I would like to start creating a lot of new agents for Creatures, but I was never super skilled at coding, and a lot of the old tutorials are defunct now. I can't find very much information on the steps for creating new breeds.

 
Malkin

Malkin

Manager


 visit Malkin's website: Malkin's page at CWiki
  10/10/2021

Just install the closest Extra ATT Pack to the Bunny Norns - that should do the trick.

Perhaps you could try Ghosthande's PrayEgger tool to create the pray file. You could also try PRAY source at the creatures.wiki or Making Eggs for Creatures 3 at the CDN (linked to from the PRAY source page at the creatures.wiki).


My TCR Norns
 
Dragoler
Wrong Banshee

Dragoler


 visit Dragoler's website: TWB Development Thread
  10/10/2021

Be aware that installing female body data for one breed can cause female creatures of other breeds to break. This is because they will try to use the body data in a nearby female slot instead of the male body data of their breed if no female body data is present, which it isn't by default for most breeds.

Creator of the TWB/TCB genome base.

 
Lacota

Lacota



  10/13/2021

Trying this post again, since the first one got eaten? Which bunny norns are these? the micro breed?
 
TheNewBlack

TheNewBlack



  10/16/2021

Lacota wrote:
Trying this post again, since the first one got eaten? Which bunny norns are these? the micro breed?


Yeah, the Bunny Norns. I'm also having trouble with the Reindeer Norns, and some other breeds.
So far no luck, but I'm going to try to open the files and see if I can fix them that way, after I figure out how to tweak the Spot Norns.
Thanks for the help everyone. I'll keep you up to date

 


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