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 Sissy2007  |
I have a norn who is quite odd. I noticed that after a three hour wolfing run that started out with only female baby norns (c1), I still had 1 baby. Her name is Lilith and it appears that she either will never grow up or has such an amazing life span that she still has yet to hit the next stage of her life. She is a recessive of my new genetic breed, the Hestia Norns, which are born full grown. Could she represent a double negative to their positive? I dunno. Thoughts? Proud mama to the brand-spanking-new base species for C1, the HESTIA Norns! W00t! |
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 Officer-1BDI  |
I think that's actually a fairly common mutation in C1. If memory serves, it used to be called the Zeus mutation/gene, and it prevented nornlings from advancing to the next life stage. I can't remember if they were considered immortal or not, though. It's entirely possible it came out of you creating the genome, but it's also possible that it simply cropped up by random chance. You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there. -- Jim Adkins |
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Sissy2007 |
I was under the impression that a Zues mutation allowed the norns health to stay just a point or two under 100. I hadn't heard of this before, but if it's common it's no biggie, I guess. Have you ever heard of anyone being able to make one of these everlasting babies grow up through chemicals or manipulation? I'd be interested in seeing what people have come up with to fix this problem. Proud mama to the brand-spanking-new base species for C1, the HESTIA Norns! W00t! |
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Officer-1BDI |
Well... shoot, you're right. I just tried googling the Zeus gene, and that's exactly what it says. And now I can't even find the name of the mutation I was thinking of. >_< Have you ever heard of anyone being able to make one of these everlasting babies grow up through chemicals or manipulation? I'm pretty sure it's possible, but for the life of me I can't remember what chemical you're supposed to inject. If you have one of the cheats activated, you can just force the norn to progress to the next life stage via one of the menu options. You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there. -- Jim Adkins |
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 Anduin |
Sissy, norns don't have true recessive traits, as their genes are either on or off, and cannot switch between the two by themselves. They are haploid. </nitpicking> |
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Sissy2007 |
Well, yes, but my definition of a recessive gene is a physical or social trait or characteristic which does not present itself as it did in either parents, or in most cases, the parent that has the more desirable traits. To me, at least, a baby born of two Hestias that isn't a Hestia is a recessive. I am, however, going to look up haploid right this moment. I guess you really DO learn something new every day. Thanks Anduin.  Proud mama to the brand-spanking-new base species for C1, the HESTIA Norns! W00t! |
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 Malkin Manager |
I think maybe 'throwback' would be a term used if the gene mutated back to the pre-mutant form... I believe if you inject IV adrenaline, (and keep them away from sources of antioxidants) it will have an effect on the amount of Ageing chemical. However, this is distressing for the norn. I'd recommend that instead, you use BORG (carefully) - a norn has only seven life stages!! By aging the norn by one lifestage, it may progress to the others naturally. My TCR Norns |
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Anduin |
Malkin's right... usually when a norn doesn't get older, it's because one of their aging genes has mutated. [Prepare for a lecture, if you already know this, then perhaps a lurker will learn something, LOL.] Norns typically have six or seven aging genes, and each one controls bumping the norn up to the next lifestage when the Ageing (or Life, in C2-DS) chemical reaches a certain point. Here's a pic of the C1 genes. If a mutation occurs and, say, the "somatic" changes to "circulatory" (which is really common in C3/DS norns, btw D: ), the gene stops working correctly and the norn won't age right. But, the Ageing chemical will still continue to decrease, so if you force the affected norn to age, the other genes will likely kick in and you'll end up with a much older norn than what you intended (and, if it has the seventh aging gene, it will probably die). Plus! There's always the possibility that if you choose to breed the norn, she'll end up passing on the faulty gene to her offspring, and you'll end up with the same problem all over again. XP I... usually tend to isolate these norns or change their genes. To be honest, I've changed the majority of the stock genomes on my computer to not mutate their aging genes, because this problem is so irritating! Or, it could be because the Ageing half-life's changed to something really big, which although isn't as common, is just about as annoying.  |
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