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 Norn_master   |
What does everyone here prefer? I stick to feral ones mostly. They need my guidance somewhat, like not to hit their brothers and sisters, don't say bad words etc. lol I just never have been a fan of hatching creatures and ignoring them. I want them to live. To succeed, to thrive, survive. It’s a me! Dvader0086 from the’a Discord! |
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 Senior Wrangler Nutter |
All my runs end up feral - I can never avoid interfering.  The only way I've managed it is to put the game on fast ticks, and I hate resuming the game and finding a bunch of grave markers, norns that I raised gone, and hatchlings I never got to know because they came and went when I wasn't there. (Daft, innit?) |
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 Wee Scrivener Trell  |
I have never done a true wolfling run in my entire time playing Creatures. I just can't keep my paws off! ![[nlaugh]](/images/smilies/emot_laugh.gif "[nlaugh]") Trell "Holy crap in a casket!" |
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 Jessica |
I'm the same way... A complete failure when it comes to letting my Creatures live on their own! I tend to be extremely involved in Creatures 1, though I've been able to take a more hands-off approach in C2 and C3/DS. Still, I like to keep an eye on things and typically intervene even when I told myself I wouldn't. Sometimes it feels wrong not to help a sick Creature. So far I've managed to stay completely hands-off in my Geat world since they were born. We'll see how long that lasts! |
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Missmysterics |
Always feral, and most of the time I don't really hatch my creatures intending them to be feral. I may have a 'pet' population for two or three generations, and then decide to leave them on fast tics for a couple of hours. I come back when I take interest in the creatures again, make sure the survivors are all alright, then subject them to an IQ test and take the ones that complete it to my satisfaction as my next pet population, rinse and repeat. That is basically the whole story behind this lot, though genginnering was also involved at several points in the process. |
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Norn_master |
For some reason, I found Grendels to be vary self sufficient. I have a very large colony on them in one game. I just looked up the creatures IQ test. Sounds like a winner. Your right, this would help weed out those without an instinct to survive. My Grendels seem more interested in hanging out, and defending their home. They rarely leave, but I am sure they lack the instinct to go explore and live. Basically how I use creatures is I hatch 2 males and 2 females, teach them that eating is good, picking on each other is bad, some words and let them explore. All that comes from creatures 1. Give them a tickle after eating 5 pieces of food, and drinks. If they hit one another tell them no, or give them a spank. I learned the hard way in creatures 1. I don't know if it is possible for mother and father to pass on what they learned to their child, but a couple generations down the road, I had a norn that would take delight in hitting Grendels, and norns alike. It may have been due to the norn was sick with sneezes and a cough, however the norn in question was hitting him a few times, then he died. I nipped it in the bud then. He only did it every once in a great while, (perhaps out of boredom) but still I taught him and every norn since then that hitting grendals is good, hitting norns is bad. The IQ should help me alot, normally they just congregate and breed. They normally know enough to push buttons to get food. It might be cause I pamper them by getting things they may need. It’s a me! Dvader0086 from the’a Discord! |
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 Espeon_DS |
I can't help but intervene with most of my Wolfling Runs. The trouble is, I start to worry when the creatures fail to find food for themselves, and it triggers my "Norn care mode". Maybe I'll stick to playing my game in the "normal way". "If you're not the one, then why does my soul feel glad today?" |
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 Code Monkey evolnemesis |
Yeah, I have yet to really be able to get myself to do a true wolfling run.. even with c3 which was my first experience with creatures and has very self-sufficient norns that seem good at eating right away and quickly figuring out how to breed and deal with their needs. I started playing C1 for the first time now, and am going crazy with my first 2 trying to get them to eat sometimes... they ask for food, look at me, look at the food i lead them to (they are really good with listening to 'come' and will follow the hand all over the place if i ask them to), i'd wave the food in front of them, drop it in front of them, say 'push food' they'd push the hand, look around, grab the food, walk around with it, drop it, look at the food, look at the hand, look at themselves, grab the food again.. but totally ignore me telling them to push the food... they seem to understand 'push' well enough... after a while they would push me, push each other, push the grendel, push the toy, push buttons, push lifts, push anything else around they could get at... they understood 'food', they kept saying it and seemed to know i wanted them to do something with it, since they would look at it and pick it up all the time, and then look at me and say 'food' or sometimes their name and then food... 'Alex food', 'Amy food'... but getting them to actually eat is often a serious exercise in frustration... sleeping seems almost as hard to get them to do sometimes too.. The grendel keeps coming around and distracting the norns all the time when I try to teach them anything, I think it likes the hand and tends to come whenever i talk... It's fairly nice for a grendel, and even though it mostly babbles still, it seems to be starting to understand me even without computer learning. It knows the word 'food' from long sessions of watching me trying to get the norns to eat, but it seems to know how to eat just fine, recently it keeps coming over and grabbing and eating the food itself whenever I try to get the norns to eat (maybe it's just trying to be helpful and show the norns what to do, lol). "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan |
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 KittyTikara |
I mostly just stick with feral runs anymore, and even then it usually because I'm testing something. I can't keep my hands off the genetics kit long enough to just play DS regularly anymore. Plus I'm pretty much out of idea for straight wolfling runs now. I've ran a few of them before, but they just get old after a while. When ever they do get going though, they are pretty interesting. The longest I've ever gotten up to was gen 100 and they were basically their own species by that point. I can't run a wolfling run in C1/C2 though. The Norns in C1 need my help to survive, otherwise they'd probably up and die. I do have a successful feral run in C2 currently though! I was amazed when I found out that my original ten Norns had multiplied into about five billion eggs. The Mobula Ray - My Creatures blog |
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Senior Wrangler Nutter |
I just can't get over that C2 run! C2 still has bad/sad associations for me. Strangely, I'm not sure I've ever done a wolfing run in C1; I've quite often had Norns in the world and left them to do their own thing while I was doing something else, but there's usually some emergency that causes me to intervene at some point. It's easier to wolfing grendels, they're better at looking after themselves, though they do have awful problems with boredom. |
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 Abzu |
Yeah I prefer feral runs as well, my norns tend to be too stupid to care for themselves. My grendels however are sweet little intelligent babies in my norn meso. Theres this one maraquan grendel who keeps feeding the others by clicking each of the foods on the dispensor multiple times while they all gather around to eat. They're almost a wolfling run but I did teach them all how to speak.  |
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Norn_master |
Well feral runs is the majority it seems. I run those too. Quite often I am doing something in another game, and need to not pay attention to them. I don't think I have ever done a C2 feral run. Mostly C3 DS and C1 using C1 to DS. Honestly I never run anything but the DS program anymore. I consider the C3 engine to be better then DS in tearms of layout, ( UI )but still I use it. I remember thinking that I could raise both Norn and grendals when I got C1. They had them on the box with the Norns, and I didn't know you had to expand to raise them. As I got older, I figured it out. Even figured out how to switch worlds in C1 without a world switcher. Ah the good ol days. I was young and didn't know jack about puters, but was learning. Got a little off topic, I didn't play C2 till about 2006 or so. Same with C3 and DS. So for about 10 years, I knew of C2, C3, Creatures village, but never could get them. I had the original disks in 2006 of C2, and C3. Then I think I upgraded to The Albian years, and Exodus in early 2008. Shortly after my birthday in March the 5th 2009, I had a fire. Lost everything. When I moved, I rebought one of the last psyical copies on Amazon of Exodus and Albian years. So in all I probably had bought 4 copies of each game so far in my life. I guess I would be quite the dedicated creatures player. It’s a me! Dvader0086 from the’a Discord! |
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Code Monkey evolnemesis |
I tried a couple now, using the fast speed in the wolfling run tool that comes with c3, but i'm not sure the best way to set them up... I tried it with DS docked to c3... laying them in the meso, but they all seem to just wander into the c3 main hub and die if i leave the doors open. Most of them seem to stay right by the umbilical, on the ark side... I was hoping some would find their way to the norn terrarium, but no go... I feel like just locking them in the meso isn't exactly the same though... I want them to be able to explore a little. "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan |
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Senior Wrangler Nutter |
Start them off in the norn terrarium instead? |
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KittyTikara |
Evolnemesis, do you have the umbilical fix installed? If I remember correctly, the umbilical was called an elevator when it should have been a door. The Mobula Ray - My Creatures blog |
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Code Monkey evolnemesis |
Nutter wrote: Yeah, I'll try that I guess, it gets them in close contact with Grendels pretty much right away... and the ones in c3 can be pretty mean compared to c1/c2 and kill a lot of norns, but the main thing about the terrarium is norns drown every time I turn my back. I'll try it anyway, maybe with some hardmans in the original mix for some more aggressiveness to fight the grendels... at least they probably won't be wandering into the hallway and staying there to starve all the time. Another question: How many eggs do you think I should start with for a good start? Kitty, I will definitely try that umbilical fix... it does seem broken somehow to me, they make it one way and never make it back... it's odd though, you'd think they would at least try using it as an elevator if that's the case. They already like to use elevators, and 'push elevator' isn't that much of a stretch from 'push door'... you'd think they'd just try it randomly. Grendels seem to occasionally figure out how to make it into the capillata, you'd think they would too, especially once driven by hunger... "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan |
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Senior Wrangler Nutter |
The only norns I've had regularly drown are civets - it's almost like there's something in their genetics that makes water irresistible to them... |
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Code Monkey evolnemesis |
Nutter wrote: Ah that explains it, I liked civets when i first got c3, and I didn't have the mall breeds back then, so a lot of my norns were civet. Poor little things... they must dream of being mer-norns... "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan |
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Code Monkey evolnemesis |
KittyTikara wrote: Thanks for suggesting that... it really did the trick, all my creatures are going all over the ship now and freely going back and forth through the umbilical. The second I typed in the command to activate the new file in my world, they started using it like second nature. I put in a set of Torii also to let them travel between rooms even faster if they got crowded and to let them get whatever kick they get from going through portals.. "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan |
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 Air Guitarist kezune |
I'm definitely a wolfling runs kind of girl. I think I've mentioned before that I'm a set it and forget it type of player when it comes to the games. I hatch some eggs, put them through an IQ test and see what happens.  My nurturing worlds are more like feral runs, though. Instead I educate my norns (vocabulary), feed them a little and only interfere in emergencies, like when they're drowning, being attacked or get sick. In general, I prefer to let them learn life lessons on their own or from other, older creatures. Updated Rehosting Policy[/title] |
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Code Monkey evolnemesis |
That sounds like how I play pretty much, my nurturing worlds are mostly feral, I like to point out the dispensers and the talking machine to them, they pretty much tend to figure them out by themselves just from me pointing at them and teaching them the word, and easily figure out eating/playing on their own. I give them some tickles when they figure out something good for the first time, and then I pretty much just interfere if it looks like they are in danger of dying or too much violence is happening (though I can't resist giving them a tickle sometimes if they do something I like... They are so cute sometimes it's hard to resist... I probably do it too much, a lot of my norns break into song as soon as they see the hand... eem like hand! em like hand!) "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love." "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." - Carl Sagan |
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