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|  Senior Wrangler
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5/20/2013 | |
I've been running a proof-of-concept feral run of Slink's many-coloured breedable grendels in Terra Nornia. This was in the hopes of running a proper wolfling run over next weekend, as I wasn't actually sure if my computer could cope with a max-40 creature world. (I got up to nearly 30 and it slowed a bit during the autosaves, but was otherwise fine.) However, I've discovered some things that make me wonder how do-able it is.
1. I think I'm incapable of doing a proper wolfling run, except by accident, i.e. if I think I've turned the computer off but haven't. Watching what they're doing and not interfering, at least minimally, is probably not going to be an option.
2. My proof-of-concept doesn't apply to wolflings, though I think it'd still work, theoretically. For around 3 hours I did think I'd turned the computer off, and came back to 5 deaths and 12 new babies. Provided the first gens were trained, and all grendels were left in the world until they died (rather than exporting at the stage of old-but-still-fertile) I think the numbers would still be sustaining, plagues notwithstanding. I suspect more post-partum females and babies would die, though.
3. Even as-is, with something above minimal intervention, this feral run is really hard on the grendels. They're not geared for TN; they appear to have no instincts to push fruit, plants or doors. They do seem to have the usual rocketing boredom levels of standard grendels, and interaction with others does nothing for NFP or, bizarrely, boredom. (It's like they constantly irritate the snot out of each other, but are too polite to hit or run away! Odd as they have the Ron and Forest genes for fight/flight.) They spend most of their time adopting high-drive poses and saying "get flabber".
So the purpose of this post is to get answers to some questions:
1. Would anyone be interested in taking part in a C1 coloured grendel run over the next weekend?
2. Is a feral run acceptable? If so, to what extent? I started this run with teaching the grendels basic words (as a minimum, hand, push, food, drink - should've added door in there) and giving them baby shots, then isolated post-partum females if their health dropped to 30% or below; also moved eggs and hatched them out somewhere quiet, though didn't teach any words. Also extra food cobs in the world, though TN is fairly well supplied.
3. I'm thinking about making changes to the breedable grendel genome to give relevant instincts for TN, as well as changing some of the reactions and receptors so they don't find life so difficult. That would mean any resulting exported grendels might not adapt so well to Albia should you want a copy of your grendel afterwards. Could do this as a separate run, I guess, as I don't know if it would be ready for the weekend. Don't know if that would bother anyone.
Thoughts? |
 Patient Pirate
ylukyun
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5/21/2013 | |
1. Yes, I certainly would!
2. IMO, words and extra food COBs are fine, but moving eggs and creatures for whatever reason is probably best restricted to an emergency.
3. Definitely a good idea. If people want to play with a copy of their Grendel, they can always download TN. Releasing this as a breed would also be good.
Your Grendels' behavior sounds weird. Does TN change the classifiers of creatures? |
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5/21/2013 | |
The C1 grendels always did have an issue with boredom levels, don't know why; that drive seems to rise a lot faster than in norns. The NFL prob might be fixable by putting more toys in the world. TN doesn't change anything creature-related other than adding the grendel friendly scripts. It does redefine some of the classes though, and creates fruit as a new class, but I think the only instinct is hungry -> push food, so they'll ask for food while sitting next to something edible. |
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ylukyun
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5/21/2013 | |
Is it possible to add instincts for all of the new classes? |
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5/21/2013 | |
That's what I was wondering - I've got the genetics kit, so I might have a go at that today. |
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ylukyun
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5/21/2013 | |
Good luck! |
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