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 Spykkie   |
I'd like to learn more about wolfing runs so I try can holding one some time!  I made a quick search online and found the basic rules: don't interact or help the norns. Just let the game play its course until only one(the winner) remains. That's simple enough!  What I'd like to know is: -What's the best way to keep everyone updated? Does live-streaming video works for everyone? Or is it better just to recap after x number of hours went by? -How do you keep track of death times on DS if you step away from the computer? -Is DS a good choice of game for a wolfin run, or is the world too small? -Are normal breeds (bruin,chichi,etc) better then fan breeds for wolfin runs? -What do I do about the population limit? should it be high, low or unchanged? I'd be very thankful if anyone could educate me on this subject! ![[heart]](/images/smilies/heart.gif "[heart]") Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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 Air Guitarist kezune  |
1) Ooh, I'd love live streaming video, so long as a copy were saved. I can't be online all day but would love to catch up and watch. You wouldn't have to narrate if you didn't want, as long as you kept close to the action, though narration would be helpful. 2) I actually don't know how to keep track of deaths if you step away from the PC, particularly if the creature also vanishes while you're away. 3) It depends on how big you want the group to be. It might be great for a sampling of maybe 3-6 creatures. There are lots of metarooms that make it possible to do bigger wolfing runs like C1toDS and Veridia. 4) I don't think so. Maybe you could try different genomes, though, like the CFE genome (I use the Farbe genome for vanilla breeds) but if you're doing a wolfing run, you're trying to see who's the most survivable anyway, right? 5) Depends on 1, your PC's performance with different numbers and 2, how big you want it to be. I like to start with huge groups of 18+ (though I've never done a public wolfing run) and it works out great since I use the entire shee ark. For smaller rooms, I tend to stick closer to 8. Updated Rehosting Policy[/title] |
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 Tea Queen Laura |
2. You might want to investigate the The Crypt (coverted from C3 for DS standalone) for keeping track of deaths; I've used it in my DS Wolfling Runs before and it's proved to be really useful. |
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 Wee Scrivener Trell |
I used a recap of every couple of hours that went by, with pictures of each of the creatures in the run. Mini updates for special events like new babies or deaths. It worked okay, but I often had to pause it while I compiled the updates so I wouldn't miss anything. I think live-streaming video would be a lot of fun, because then we'd get a first hand view of it, but it'd have to be saved for those who couldn't be online at that particular time. And of course, I vote yes on narration! ![[nblush]](/images/smilies/emot_blush.gif "[nblush]") I'm with Laura on installing that Crypt! Otherwise, pretty much all you can do is make a list and cross them out when you can't find them. *shrug* DS is rather small, but it makes for a good run if ya got some meta-rooms installed. I like to add a couple big ones, like Chione. Otherwise, I recommend a docked world. I've never used any third party breeds before, 'cept for the Painted Chichis which I just installed, so I couldn't tell ya. I'm kinda biased towards the original breeds. ![[nwink]](/images/smilies/emot_wink.gif "[nwink]") What I do is set the population limit to however many Norns/Ettins/Grendels I've got in the beginning, and then set it to hold about ten more, for the babies. I'd be glad to participate in any run ya can come up with luv! Trell "Holy crap in a casket!" |
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Spykkie |
Thanks Kezune! I didn't even consider the possibility of narration XD Would I be like a sports narrator? "An in this corner, flib just picked up a carrot and ate it! AND THE CROWD GOES WILD!! This moment sponsored by carrots of Albia." that would be intense XD A nice metaroom makes sense, but my game has trouble with metarooms... :/ Sometimes an error just pops up out of nowhere and pauses the game until I tell it to ignore it... and then it pops up again later. Maybe 6 norns on DS would be a good place to start? Like a sort of test run. I could stream it and see how it goes. ^^ I'd have to cut the video into segments to leave it up though, my computer has a hard time saving my live-streaming that are over an hour long(or at least that's how it is when I live-stream drawing). It 'can' work but if it fails the whole recording is lost.Which breeds would you suggest for an interesting run? I think same breed couples are a nice way to start? Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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Spykkie |
Laura wrote: hooo! That looks incredibly useful!! Thank you Laura! Lilynorn wrote: that sounds like the best way to go for my first time. I'm also looking into that Chione thing you recommended! ^^ Everyone wants narration! XD; If I do narration i'll have to be careful not to say anything stupid XD; Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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Wee Scrivener Trell |
I enjoy using Bondis and Treehuggers, because of their long lifespans. Toxics certainly provide a challenge, as well as some interesting hybrids. When I do large runs, I like to have a bunch of same breed couples, but in smaller runs, it's fun to mix it up a little. If you're doing six to start with, I recommend going with a bunch of high contrasting Norns, see what crazy patterns the offspring get! ![[ngrin]](/images/smilies/emot_grin.gif "[ngrin]") Trell "Holy crap in a casket!" |
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 magpie-angel |
i think it all really depends on how you want to run it since i use wolfing runs to get more independent but pretty norns and people have their own set guidelines for how they want to run their wolfings but if you decide to do one i'd love to take part. i was actually thinking of running one myself |
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Spykkie |
I suppose you're right magpie-angel, but i wanted to hear what people think and how they usually go down first for good measure. Ho! I almost forgot to ask something very important! How far in advance should I announce a wolfing run? It's probably preferable to tell everyone a few days in advance? So that everyone who wants to enter can pick a norn and arrange some time to check up on progress? Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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Wee Scrivener Trell |
I think what usually happens is you announce it, let people send in their Norns or pick from a list of available Norns, and then you start it either on a set date or after all the Norns are chosen... Trell "Holy crap in a casket!" |
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Spykkie |
LilyNorn wrote: That makes sense. I'm trying out Chione. it's huge! O.O It's not causing any errors so far, probably because there are no agents in it. It could definitely be interesting for a big event! I need to look into my live streaming video quality. It would be good if i could bump it up a bit, it's usually a bit blurry. Should I tell everyone if I make a streaming test later? Some feedback about the user-end quality would be helpful. Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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Wee Scrivener Trell |
spykkie wrote: Definitely! It'd be good to know if there's any changes that need to be made to it before ya start yer run. ![[nsmile]](/images/smilies/emot_smile.gif "[nsmile]") Trell "Holy crap in a casket!" |
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magpie-angel |
well i suppose people normally have a set area where its based or they just have all the areas open in general like a lot of people start their eggs off in the communications bay but i prefer staring in the norn meso or the norn terrarium and if they are doing it for a set purpose they might introduce set criteria like last one to survive, most children had, best at surviving in general like breeding and feeding themselves there are some pretty handy agents floating about to help with wolfing runs like the wolfing vendor as for things like breeds its entirely up to you but if you let people submit their own then obviously you'll actually have to have it which can be a problem with some breeds if they aren't online anymore hope that helps |
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Wee Scrivener Trell |
On my first run, I hatched all the Norns, exported them, made copies, and then imported them and set them loose. I have pre-run copies of all my first run Norns. Trell "Holy crap in a casket!" |
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Air Guitarist kezune |
Oh man. A sports announcer narration would be awesome but it's also incredibly exhausting. I used to narrate let's plays. XD Good luck with this first run! I'll try to be around if you do a live stream! Sorry I've been away for the last while, I've been eating breakfast. XD Updated Rehosting Policy[/title] |
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Spykkie |
I guess it's good to let them roam, especially if it's in the small world of DS. The meso is definitely a nicer place to start for babies. Wolfin vendor... *looks it up* wow!! That looks really useful! Thanks! Hm, I see what you mean about the breeds... In that case, its simpler to start with a list and let everyone pick a name. Lilynorn: that sounds like a good idea for the actual run! That way if someone wants to raise their norn afterwards they can get a copy! Kezune: I tried doing a let's play once, but i had no idea what to say so I stopped XD; It was only for a couple of friends anyway. And never forget to eat! That will make you so exhausted later.  --- I made some preliminary tests for the video quality. As expected, low quality looks terrible, medium quality looks very fuzzy, and high quality keeps the most details. If I stream it in high quality, I could stream the entire screen (all of DS meso). Viewers should be able to full screen the video and see things rather clearly. That sounds like fun, but I'm not sure how long of a video my computer can handle on high quality. Remember: If my computer fails to save the file after streaming, the video is lost, I only get one chance to save it. So that's why I need to cut long streams into segments if i want people to be able to watch it later. I'm going to try different streaming lengths, pause and attempt saving to see how well that goes. I'll hatch a couple of norns for this since the whole point is to have norns in it. for those who want to see the testing, you should be able to watch it here in real time: http://www.livestream.com/SpykkieSamaDen You can make the video full screen or pop it out to change the size manually. I hope this goes well! Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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Air Guitarist kezune |
I find doing recordings in 20 minute stints is the way to go. It keeps you from getting too tired and it keeps people interested for the next part. ;D Besides, it's a lot easier to fit in 20 minutes of the day to watch something live than it does to fit in an hour. Aaaand it should help keep your computer from corrupting the video. Updated Rehosting Policy[/title] |
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Spykkie |
I guess you're right, 20 minutes would be a nice format I've run into something weird. I had to update my caster to the latest version and for some reason, my 10 minutes test showed up as a million 20 seconds videos o-O; that update must have messed up something big time. I removed all but the last video, one is enough to see the video quality for now. I''ll start looking into it. EDIT: It seems the problem might that I set the streaming to automatically put the video up as i stream. My internet connection went bad (I need to call the company about it, it keeps happening. ![[nangry]](/images/smilies/emot_angry.gif "[nangry]") ) so the video got chopped into tiny bits as the stream connected on and off.whew. I'm going to try streaming it with out anti-lag and with out auto-publish. It wont put itself up to play automatically but I should be able to upload it afterwards, so the result should be the same as if all went well with the previous set up, albeit with a bit more effort and fiddling on my part lol. EDIT II: Well, a few tests later and it looks like the best way to go if people want to watch in real time is normal quality. 'Normal' quality can be pretty fuzzy though, so I'd like to invite you all to check out the video i put up in normal quality called 'Nornish stream test' and tell me what you think. http://www.livestream.com/SpykkieSamaDen The test video is about two minutes long; you can full screen it to see the whole DS meso (though it's kind of blurry). Twitt Stuff Insta Arts |
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