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 Moe    |
This is a very "stream of consciousness" post. I was watching this special on Time Travel and Space Travel, and I got to thinking about the technology and means by which the Shee traversed space in their journey to Sphericus. Here are my musings: Looking at the Ark in promo shots and in the game itself, there doesn't appear to be a propulsion system capable of getting the ship to a nearby planet in a reasonable amount of time. But the fact that the ship has massive environmental domes points to the Shee planning for a long journey. But even at rocket speeds, it would take thousands of years to reach another planet, yet the Ark was not large enough to sustain a population of Shee greater than a few dozen. Interestingly, we can make inferences about Shee culture from this observation. Albia is a small planet, and given that the Ark, being not very large itself, was the means to take the whole populace of Albia into the stars, I gather there never were more than a few dozen Shee. They were probably a long-lived species, that didn't breed much. But going back to the Ark, it also doesn't have the power to reach or sustain any form of high-speed velocities. It has lungs, and scours the hull for stray photons... that's not much in the way of a reactor! The Capilata on the other hand had "infinite" bioenergy, and by what means it generated power there is no indication. I would presume however, that it uses Warp technology to traverse space in a timely fashion, but there's no indication that it does, and if it did, the Lone Shee's journey would have been much shorter than it appears. So again, was the Lone Shee content to just drift through the cosmos for centuries? The Shee were a very advanced culture. They had transporters, energy-to-matter conversion abilities, advanced bioengineering, and amazing storage capabilities, yet they didn't find a faster way to traverse the cosmos than drifting through? Perhaps they were incredibly patient, having bio-engineered themselves to live forever early in their history? Anyone else care to post some musings on Shee technology and culture? Although, given the way everything seems to be made for Norns, and the little we know about the Shee...I'm beginning to doubt their existence. o.0 |
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 Officer-1BDI |
Although, given the way everything seems to be made for Norns [...] I have theories about that! In my convoluted headcanon, Albia isn't actually the Shee's home planet. It was a planetoid they created and/or "colonized" specifically for their norns and related experiments, which is why everying is norn-sized in the game but still with touches of advanced technology. Unfortunately, that doesn't explain why the Shee consider Albia to be their "home" planet, or why the Shee Ark and Capillata are so small, and the ideas I've come up with to explain that away are more fanatical plot points than anything with a proper basis in the game's lore.  You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there. -- Jim Adkins |
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Moe |
I've been thinking something similar too, about Albia not being the Shee's original homeworld. I don't honestly believe the Shee created the norns, ettins, and grendels either. That certainly wasn't Steve Grand's original view of it, anyway. He had all three species coexisting on Albia. And I wouldn't put it past the Shee to position themselves as the Creature's "Gods" (Statue in C2), and this in turn gave rise to the idea of the Shee "creating" the creatures. And why would a species so apparently few in number leave one of their own behind (The Lone Shee)? You'd think SOMEONE would have missed him? Unless they purposely left him behind? Or he was so deranged as a scientist that he was exiled to Albia! lol I mean look, he took out half the planet in a launch scheme!!! And where are all the Shee structures on Albia? There's not even a city... Just norn-size cottages, burrows, and treehouses. Lots of unanswered questions... |
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 sam999 |
Here's my ideas: Back in the time of the shee, there where cities. Or rather, Albia was one huge supercity. Only ages after the shee left did their pets, food creatures and pests evolve back into an ecosystem. All but a few of the oldest and most primitive buildings "the more advanced ones being ark-like biotech" died and decayed without shee care, or new ones being grown. The matter of the lone shee being "forgotten" was as you said probably either that "A. All shee are that crazy/awesome, or B. The other shee left him behind as he was totally nuts" As for the room on the ark, I personally always thought the shee spent it in coldsleep. Another idea is, have we ever seen the size of a shee? Maybe they where norn-sized, and the buildings in-game where for them! They sure have the ego to build their sculptures "C2 shee statue" larger then life. |
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Moe |
And let's not forget the disconnect between organic engineering as seen in the C3 Ark and Capilata, and the seemingly mechanical engineering found on Albia. Especially since the C3 Ark dates around the same time as C1...something's fishy. o.0 It's almost like the technology of two different cultures. The inhabitants of Albia (like Ettins) who favored mechanical engineering, and those of the alleged space-fairing Shee, who seem to favor biological technology. |
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 silvak |
I like concept of Albia being a Colony or Outpost. It would explain alot in my head. Also how did we even get the "history" of Albia anyway? Who's telling it? AND from what perspective? Would it be possible we are getting the histories told from a Norn/Grendel/Ettin point of view with excerpts from a journal or diary by say, the Lone Shee? They could well have developed the mythology about where the Shee came from and their roles in the evolution of the planet. Sphericus could well have been the Shee homeworld. Cause who names something they've haven't found yet? Lost Content, help find it a home! |
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 Soliloquy |
I love the creature-perspective journal idea - that'd be be amazing to see history and the Shee from the creature's point-of-view! |
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 Patient Pirate ylukyun Manager |
It's almost like the technology of two different cultures. Interesting, because there seem to be two different depictions of the "Shee" - the one in all the statues, and the one on the Creatures 3 splash screen (android looking blue being.) |
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Officer-1BDI |
...I am not sure why I'm doing this, but here I go anyway. For those unaware, for the past decade or so I've been working on-and-off on this horribly convoluted Creatures story that I may never finish because I'm too long-winded for my own good (among other things). Said thing involves a decent amount of Shee lore... at least as I imagine it. I actually managed to put some of it down on paper about a year ago. And I felt kind of cheap throwing out so few ideas in response to Moe's OP like I did last week. So, I quickly cleaned up up what I'd written and have posted it for your reading/analytical pleasure. Click if you're interested. This is still a very rough draft, compete with made-up words and original characters whose voices I haven't quite found yet, and it's over 18 pages long in Word, so, um, get comfy and please don't throw things at me when you're done with it. I posted it here to offer an idea of how I interpret Shee culture. You have to be honest with yourself when you are writing. If that leads to somewhere unexpected then perhaps you really needed to go there. -- Jim Adkins |
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 Malkin Manager |
Wow, fantastic!  And such a cliffhanger... Please write more!My TCR Norns |
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