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Dreamnorn
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7/15/2007 | |
Ooh, this burns me up!
I was gagged from JRChat by Shanon (whoever she is). The little thing that says that I've been gagged from the Chatroom said that I used the innapropriate words "shut up," but I didn't! No such words came out of my mouth!
I have a few questions to ask you all: How long does a JRChat gag last? Is there a log they keep of this so I can make my case to Shanon?
Hawksight
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Data
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7/15/2007 | |
Actually, while cc.com contains a page allowing you to connect to JRC, it isn't actually part of it (different Ops, different servers, different rules, etc).
As for the "shut up", that wasn't the server speaking. The only server message you'll get is when the server itself kicks you. A kick from an op, a gag, etc only displays what the Op tells it to.
Time limits on gags range from 1ms (millisecond) through to a week, depending. However, quitting and attempting to rejoin while gagged may increase the gag length. Being gagged also places you on the "waitlist" - when you try to join the server asks all ops if it should let you in or not. Whichever Ops votes first decides.
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Paranesia
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7/15/2007 | |
... who's Shanon? |
Spook
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7/15/2007 | |
You were only gagged for 10 minutes. |
Tea Queen
Laura
Administrator
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7/15/2007 | |
I think any further questions should be sent to Shaon (Shaon, not Shanon) in JRChat, since this isn't a CC.com matter. Since you were only gagged for 10 minutes, you should be able to connect to JRChat and chat as normal now.
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Anduin
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7/15/2007 | |
I think we need a Shanon, to go along with the Shaon and the Sharon, just to confuse matters further.
(And more And-twins, too!) |
christine
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7/15/2007 | |
i volunteer to be both a shanon and an and-twin.
I wanna be your lover,
Lipstick my name across your mirror.
Blood red with flaked gunshot glitter |
Spook
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7/15/2007 | |
Andchristine! |
christine
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7/15/2007 | |
that's a little lumpy, don't you think?
I wanna be your lover,
Lipstick my name across your mirror.
Blood red with flaked gunshot glitter |
Anduin
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7/15/2007 | |
*snorts at Spook's new name* |
Dreamnorn
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7/15/2007 | |
Thanks guys!
...but one more thing: can you get permanently banned from the Creatures Chatroom?
Hawksight
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OnikageWolf
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7/15/2007 | |
Yeah, you can. I've seen it happen a few times. |
Wup
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7/15/2007 | |
I haven't.
I've seen people say things on JRChat that would make you want to puke, and yet, they weren't even kicked. And here we are. You've been gagged for supposedly saying 'Shut up.' I think that you were gagged for bugging them, and Shaon's "reason for gagging you" was her tellng you to shut up. I've had that happen.
ps. I haven't played Monster Raannnrrrnnchhdoggy |
ElasticMuffin
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7/15/2007 | |
You guys who don't know who Shanon is should be ashamed. Go look her up on the Creatures Wiki for goodness sake.
Anyway, JRC is a pit of infantile nonsense now, what do you expect?
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My Creatures download archive (Bibbleworld, C12DS, and more) |
christine
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7/16/2007 | |
which is why the interesting people should come back and overpower the nonsensical infants.
I wanna be your lover,
Lipstick my name across your mirror.
Blood red with flaked gunshot glitter |
ElasticMuffin
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7/16/2007 | |
Can't. No moderation = no way to control the weirdness.
Most oldbies have found better ways to communicate now anyway. With its frequent downtime and the quality of chat spiraling and the server banning you for idiotic things like "byee" and "y'all"...
The Creature Repository / Eem Labs
My Creatures download archive (Bibbleworld, C12DS, and more) |
Wup
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7/16/2007 | |
ElasticMuffin
wrote: Anyway, JRC is a pit of infantile nonsense now, what do you expect?
Indeed! Last night everyone's name was changed a least 5 times! For god's sake, some poor chap got stuck as CheapCarsSoldHere! Speaking of God, two people (God and God1) were fighting over wh was the real God! And don't get me started on Jesus.
ps. I haven't played Monster Raannnrrrnnchhdoggy |
christine
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7/16/2007 | |
i'm glad i missed that one. it's depressing, mostly i hang around jrc in the hope that some of the oldbies or semi-oldbies i enjoyed talking to will show up for a few minutes, as happens somewhat frequently.
I wanna be your lover,
Lipstick my name across your mirror.
Blood red with flaked gunshot glitter |
Spook
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7/16/2007 | |
EvilSpirit: I think that's partially Data's fault, no offense to him. Giving temporary op powers to Shaon (and Wolf in this case) was a bad idea.
Let's count how many names I had!
-NotEmo
-Emoface
-OozingToaster
-RoomwithaMoose
:I |
christine
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7/16/2007 | |
looks like we need to have a chat with data.
I wanna be your lover,
Lipstick my name across your mirror.
Blood red with flaked gunshot glitter |
Dreamnorn
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7/16/2007 | |
Wolf and Shaon were the ones rudely changing our names. You should've seen what they've done over there to me, EvilSpirit, and Spook (oops... InfinityMoose)! ...I'm not blaming you for their atrocious behavior, Data. I'm just upset that they've used their power like that.
Let's count how many names I'VE had:
-Hawkisight
-Hawkblind
-Hawkblindleftface
-Titmouse
-Tattle-tale
-Cyberdork
-Steve
-SteveTheGuy (they know I'm female!)
-Oozing Toast
...and about ten more which I chose not to remember. Anywho, JRChat is starting to just be a jumble of a few random people from who-knows-where breaking almost all of the rules! (People shouted a lot, posted lines and lines of text that had no real meaning, asked personal questions like "How old are you?" and "When's your birthday?", and they used some bad language.) I know I'm probably just overreacting.
I'm just not enjoying JRChat; people seem to break the rules a lot . I wish that someone with power over JRC can help reistablish order in the Creatures Chatroom.
Hawksight
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Ilaezha
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7/17/2007 | |
Yeah, I've noticed shouting, a bit of scrolling, bad language and stat questions, too. I've never gotten my name changed, though. Shaon (sorry) is picky about what I say and then she goes and cussed and shouts herself! Someone do something, please! For the sake of the Community! |
ElasticMuffin
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7/17/2007 | |
Without active sysops, there's nothing anyone can do as far as technical measures go. Data is the only one around, and he's frequently busy or otherwise occupied. And no new sysops can be added without LummoxJR doing it himself, which is unlikely to ever happen. With no control you get madness.
The Creature Repository / Eem Labs
My Creatures download archive (Bibbleworld, C12DS, and more) |
Data
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7/17/2007 | |
Holdon a sec, people. Yes, it looks like Wolf & Shaon went a bit silly with the tempsys abilities & I'll have to have a chat to them about that. I'll also be a bit picky about who gets it if I keep getting complaints.
As EM points out, I can't be in there 24/7 - so I try to find people who can be trusted to keep an eye on things. The reason for that's simple - a certain troll still hasn't gotten the hint and keeps insisting that he can use JRC to be a foul mouthed little toad and abuse any female who enters.
While I could ban him, the server will only allow a 1 week ban from a sys-op of my level or a 3 week waitlisting. But a waitlist is pointless without an op. If I try banning just his IP, he tumbles and gets a new IP in that range, while banning that ISP outright could potentially ban normal people. A waitlist is a good compromise (AOL users are waitlisted for a similar reason). With this in mind, I feel it's better to have an Op of some sort at least most of the time in case foulmouth comes back (not naming names, but many of you know his Harry Potter psyeudonym).
As for why Shaon & Wolf were opped, I was hoping I could trust them to "play nice". It isn't so easy to pick Ops
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Anduin
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7/17/2007 | |
Since when is asking someone how old they are against the law? 0_o |
christine
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7/17/2007 | |
well technically it's against the rules of jrc. it works well to protect younger kids, who wouldn't know not to tell everyone their address, phone number, social security number, etc (silly, it sounds, but it's true). i think generally people (myself) just sort of have a sense of who cares and who doesn't, and the rules have relaxed a lot. which isn't a terrible thing imho.
I wanna be your lover,
Lipstick my name across your mirror.
Blood red with flaked gunshot glitter |
Dreamnorn
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7/17/2007 | |
To Anduin: Being asked your age in JRC can be a bad thing. Like christine stated, the reason why that's technically breaking the rules is that if you are young (in the eyes of those viewing), you might end up with stalkers, which may lead up to bad things like spam mail.
To Data: We aren't blaming you for their behavior and we aren't mad at you. We just would like someone with power (and time) to make sure that the people in the Creatures Chatroom don't break the rules, be respectful to the others, etc.
...The chatroom has basically fallen into a state of insanity, randomness, and, all in all, chaos. If LummoxJR isn't around to apoint new sysops, then I don't know what'll happen.
Hawksight
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Data
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7/17/2007 | |
Okay, I'm trying to find people I can trust with sys power - it's not always easy, but I have a few I believe I can trust now.
And no, Lum popped on for maybe half an hour at the start of the year - his first appearance in ages! And he was gone before I could ask about new sysops.
Technically asking age is against the rules, but it seems to have become more relaxed over the years - to becoming something you find out in the process of getting to know friends. But you do NOT just barge in with "ASL!!?!?11!?!" - it isn't AOLChat thanks! Oh, and if anyone barges in screaming AOLspeak or leetspeak, don't take offence if I boot you the instant I see it.
Anyway, long as we try not to annoy each other all should go well, right?
Back again! Beware! |
christine
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7/17/2007 | |
it's true. i'm glad there's a new effort to sort things out- if we can convince people to come back then maybe we can have a jrc renaissance. i'd love to see some people come back. and yes, there are temp sysops (!) and people with power who are somewhat trustworthy, despite recent events. so pop in sometime, just check it out maybe? cough, people who never come in, cough.
I wanna be your lover,
Lipstick my name across your mirror.
Blood red with flaked gunshot glitter |
Dreamnorn
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7/18/2007 | |
Data said: Oh, and if anyone barges in screaming AOLspeak or leetspeak, don't take offence if I boot you the instant I see it.
Data: People haven't been doing AOL Speak, but I did see some Leet (they talked w31rd l11k th1s, for the newbies that don't know what Leet is). I don't take offence if you kick them out the second you see them do something like that (I HATE Leet!).
Thank you, Data. We appriciate that you're searching for someone that's responsible and serious to make sure that JRChat doesn't stay like a big bowl of mushy whackiness. And as long as we don't annoy and/or irritate one another in JRChat, this should go well.
...There's only one more thing that's troubling me, though... how will Wolf and Shaon take it when Data tells them that they're going to loose their temporary rank as sysops?
Hawksight
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Anduin
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7/20/2007 | |
There are few outsiders in JRC, Hawksight, anyone likely to be a "stalker" is going to have far more inquiries about themselves than someone who's taken the time to be visible somewhere else in the CC (CC.com, A2K, and GW are the most common). As I'm sure you know quite well by now with your name fiasco, we're a pretty suspicious lot.
The temp-sys is removed when the person with it leaves the room; Shaon and Wolf already know they probably won't be getting it again all that soon. |
Dreamnorn
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7/20/2007 | |
I've noticed, Anduin, that they haven't been changing anyones name and that they didn't have the star next to their names; I have concluded that their powers have been taken away. Frankly, I'm quite glad that they aren't "at large and in charge" anymore.
Hawksight
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OnikageWolf
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7/20/2007 | |
Hawksight, EvilSpirit, Spook, and others.
I'd like to apologize for my immaturity the other night. I was really out of line.
I'm sorry, and I hope that you'll accept this apology.
-Wolf
(P.S.: For the record, the "poor chap" who got his name changed to CarsCostLessHere was a consenting participant.) |
Tea Queen
Laura
Administrator
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7/20/2007 | |
It also takes a good deal of maturity to be able to admit to your mistakes and apologise. |
Dreamnorn
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7/20/2007 | |
I accept your apology Wolf. It takes a lot of maturity to be able to admit mistakes and apologize for them.
I'm sorry about the "large and in charge" comment, OnikageWolf. I hope you accept this apology as I've accepted yours.
Hawksight
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OnikageWolf
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7/20/2007 | |
I accept your apology as well.
-Wolf |