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Development Forum How to add CA to a new metaroom?    Malkin    Manager     12/22/2019 On and off, I've been toying with making a new metaroom for DS. However, even after reading through the tutorials available, I'm struggling to add the needed cellular automata for TWBs to my test metaroom. Can anyone please help me out with this? I can't promise it'll ever be finished, but hopefully by uploading it onto Github people will be able to see the code and build on it. My TCR Norns   Vermidia   12/22/2019  1 You're going to need to make an agent for it For example: new: simp 1 1 150 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 mvto 1650 9012 Is a light emitter in the meso that's classified as an invisible to creatures agent, which is invisible and can't be clicked(not as important I think) Mvto here is important, since that's where it'll be located, you'll want to use shift+ctrl+x to find the coordinates of where you want it. scrp 1 1 150 1000 emit 1 _p1_ endm The emit script for the meso lights is separate(but it does not have to be) _p1_ here is how much is emitted, which is set in another script in this case. This is a number between 0.0 and 1.0. You'll want to spread these out along the metaroom, and use heatlamp or Aiko's magic words CA trackers to monitor levels. Since CA's like to spread out variably depending on room type, you might have to place multiple together in a close area if you want one place to be very warm. Emit may be able to be set to a negative value, though I'm not sure this would have an effect. If it does, it might be good for ensuring some areas are cold, but if not, make sure to spread out CA emitters far from the area, and adjust it until the room is cold but the rooms around it are a bit warmer. inst new: simp 1 1 x "blnk" 1 0 8000 attr 16 clac 0 emit (CA) (Amount) mvto [xcoord] [ycoord] Is a good place to start when making CA emitters. You know...wait...nevermind... wait...no...umm...maybe later...   Malkin Manager     12/22/2019 Thanks so much for this, makes it a bit less daunting. Good to know that the trial and error approach is what's needed. Do different emitters (light, soil nutrients, moisture etc.) need to have different class numbers? My TCR Norns   Vermidia   12/22/2019 As long as there is no script changing the emit value, it should be fine to have the same species number. If you do want the emitters to change based on time or season, you will need a different species number if you have separate emitters for each. If you ever want an emitter to stop emitting, emit [CA] 0 should work. You know...wait...nevermind... wait...no...umm...maybe later...   Malkin Manager     12/22/2019 Thanks again: I just want to do something basic but thought out, so it's important to get it right the first time around. I guess now the question is what kinds of values are TWB+ safe? I know that 6 is a good level for heat, but I'm not sure about the variant breeds, whether they would live poorly in emit 1 1.0 conditions, or what would be good levels for them. I suppose Dragoler would be the only one who can say what environmental CA levels suit. My TCR Norns   Wrong Banshee Dragoler     12/22/2019 Between 0.4 and 0.7 are good temperatures to aim for, below that there is a risk of hypothermia which becomes higher the closer to 0 the room temperature is, and at a temperature of about 0.95 most Creatures will start taking direct damage to their skin. Creator of the TWB/TCB genome base.   Malkin Manager     12/22/2019 What about light, soil nutrients, moisture, etc? Are there any breeds which rely on certain ranges for other CAs? My TCR Norns   Wrong Banshee Dragoler     12/23/2019 Thistlefern Norns require light, water and soil nutrients to survive seeing as they function more like plants than animals, Basilisk Norns also use water and light to a lesser extent for the same reason. The only Creature that is harmed by high levels of those CAs would be Vampire Norns who take life and health damage from light, but not usually so much that they can't out-heal it. Creator of the TWB/TCB genome base.   xan   12/24/2019  1 It would be great to have this data tabulated and pasted up somewhere for future metaroom makers. I dumped a table of common PLNE values from a running world I had a while back and it's been invaluable for similar reasons.   Malkin Manager     12/24/2019 For whatever reason, the CA emitters I've made do not work. The only CA in my room seems to be coming through the door CA link. Could someone please take a closer look at them? My TCR Norns   Zzzzoot   12/24/2019 I'm not sure, but maybe moving them first, them emitting the CA will work.   Peppery One Papriko   12/24/2019 Not sure if it has been said yet, but always keep in mind that every object can only emit one CA, i.e. you need at least 1 instance of your emitter agent per CA per area. Lets play plants! Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis... Photosynthesis...   Malkin Manager     12/24/2019 So what I have is: ***set va00 to 1 to make emitters visible setv va00 0 ***HEAT ** leftmost new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 emit 2 0.6 mvto 9267 2239 ** Central new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 emit 2 0.6 mvto 9772 2214 ** Rightmost new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 emit 2 0.6 mvto 10380 2222 ***LIGHT ** leftmost new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 emit 1 1.0 mvto 9267 2239 ** Central new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 emit 1 1.0 mvto 9772 2214 ** Rightmost new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 emit 1 1.0 mvto 10380 2222 Could the variable be throwing it off? My TCR Norns   Zzzzoot   12/24/2019 Maybe this will work: ***set va00 to 1 to make emitters visible setv va00 0 ***HEAT ** leftmost new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 mvto 9267 2239 emit 2 0.6 ** Central new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 mvto 9772 2214 emit 2 0.6 ** Rightmost new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 mvto 10380 2222 emit 2 0.6 ***LIGHT ** leftmost new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 mvto 9267 2239 emit 1 1.0 ** Central new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 mvto 9772 2214 emit 1 1.0 ** Rightmost new: simp 1 1 10853 "blnk" 1 va00 8000 attr 16 clac 0 mvto 10380 2222 emit 1 1.0   Vermidia   12/24/2019 Yeah it might throw it off if the emit is not put after, I wasn't really sure of that looking at the meso emitters. The new weather emitters from the C3 weather patch put emit after the mvto. You know...wait...nevermind... wait...no...umm...maybe later...   Malkin Manager     12/25/2019  1 Putting the emit after the location seems to work well. My TCR Norns

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