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NornBabbles

NornBabbles



  5/11/2017

Besides my freelance work I like to make coloring books for all my nephews and nieces. Been working on one close to my heart and it's just for the Creatures Franchise community!
I'm drawing them in the classic style found in the Creatures 2 Official Guide book because I thought that would be the most familiar official looking art.
Official Guide Book's Example:

* I'm not at home for days so I can't scan my own pictures yet. Give a few days and this post will be updated with my own samples. Don't worry, I'm an artist, the style looks extremely similar, you'll think it IS the official art and that's the point.

The pictures are based around the Norns unpredictable antics so it's very expressive, silly, heartwarming, and downright adorable!

Here's the thing: I can't play the games, so I don't really have my own Norns anymore to base more unique Norns off of. I want to include YOUR Norns, Ettins, and Grendels (and even Shee)! Let's make the book personal, after-all, it's catered to us.
I've drawn a LOT and the classic Creatures alone is getting boring, I think the book would do well with diversity in breeds. Hair, wings, fishtails, different anatomy and all that.
So post pictures of your little aliens, tell me what they like to do or what they are like even. Let's make these silly pictures even better with diversity. :3
I will give you a profile sample to make sure I got your character right, and then a roughdraft of what they will be doing in their page(s) for you to review.

Disclaimer: Any book based off copyrighted material will not be sold, the only price is shipping if you want a hard copy. But you don't even have to worry about that as I will upload the entire book for free, and you can print out what you wish instead.

 
Lurhstaap

Lurhstaap
United States  

 visit Lurhstaap's website: Addicted To CAOS
  5/11/2017

Oooh! I should try doing creatures art. I've never actually done much drawing for this. I'd love it if you included the Abyss Dragons! Here are some screenshots, including a couple with appealing poses/behaviors you may want to include.


The proud hunter has caught a bird.


Their wings allow them to fly, and they love to use this ability. (They can also swim, and aquatic scenes are equally appropriate, especially very-deep-water settings.)


Raiding the nest.


Alfonso and Annemone were a very devoted pair. They were in love and spent their entire lives together. They wandered together and became visibly distressed when separated. Interesting pair of Norns. The other images are just examples of how they look for poses and such, but if you were going to use any named individuals, I'd choose these two.


Another look at Al and Anne.

Why can't you play the games, just out of curiosity?


Conclude with killer catchphrase.
(Lurhstaap)
"This is not knowledge -
this is information!"
New Model Army, "Courage"

 
NornBabbles

NornBabbles



  5/11/2017

Oh wow, never seen these guys before. Certainly wasn't what I was expecting. XD lol
Lucky you I'm very familiar with drawing scalies. >w> Dinosaurs, dragons, snake ladies. Booyah baby!

I'm not sure if it's just this monitor I'm using but I can barely see the Abyss dragons because they are so dark. It's hard to tell them apart from their backgrounds and foregrounds because of this. I'm going to wait until I'm back home to not only see pictures better, but mess around with them for seeing minute detail.

I drew Al and Anne doing things together, also plan to include the breed in other pictures now that I'm aware of them. :3
I'll upload review pics when I can see them better since I may need to change their anatomy, that, and I'm not home with a scanner.

 
Intyalle

Intyalle
New Zealand  

 visit Intyalle's website: Nadia Eat Hand
  5/11/2017

I'm helping out by recolouring the sprites, the new ones should be a bit easier to see :)

Also known as bab_5_freak from the old Gameware forums.
 
Lurhstaap

Lurhstaap
United States  

 visit Lurhstaap's website: Addicted To CAOS
  5/11/2017

They're using the old Draconian Norn sprites with Gargoyle Norn arms. I do like the dark colors but I can take a few screenshots with brighter ones. XD And yeah, the edited sprites are definitely lighter colored.

Conclude with killer catchphrase.
(Lurhstaap)
"This is not knowledge -
this is information!"
New Model Army, "Courage"

 
Linda

Linda
Germany  

 visit Linda's website: My deviantArt gallery
  5/12/2017

That's such a cool idea! Can't wait to see some of your drawings :)
I got this cute bean! :D



His name is Chizuma and he was/is my favourite norn. It would be cool to have him close to or stepping through a warp portal since that's how I got him. ^^

Edit: Chizuma uses the sprites of the Butterfly norns by Amanora and the official Magma and Harlequin breeds by Creature Labs. ^^

 
MidoriFrogNorn

MidoriFrogNorn



  5/12/2017

I hope you will credit the people who made the third party breeds,right?
(such as Draconian made by Bug,Gargoyle made by Alien,Butterfly made by Amanora etc...Ribbit).
Took example of the current Norn breeds shown.
-ribbit-

As good as the official art?
You have to show us! You dont trace I hope (Joke!)
-Ribbit-

You could try a Creatures 2 Frog Norn,like me!
(Its a official C2 breed)
Want to see me in River & Petals design!
-ribbit-


" I "Ribbit" as my sentence ending"
 
ylukyun
Axe Maniac Diva

ylukyun

Manager


 visit ylukyun's website: Engineering
  5/12/2017

Can you include Karl and his hot rock, please?



Thank you! :D

Edit: I just read your OP again, it looks like you're sick of drawing the standard breeds... well, it would still make me really happy if you could draw a Grendel of any kind playing with some volcanic rocks. :)

 
fallowbelinda

fallowbelinda
Australia  


  5/12/2017

One of my fave norns is Carla-Doe, she's the one in my profile pic. She used to spend her time wandering the dessert all by herself. I'll send a better pic when I'm on my pc. I used to have "chicken ettins" which is what I called the results of breeding a micro ettin with a normal sized ettin. They'd have teeny tiny heads and it was even funnier when they had teeny tiny arms and legs as well lol.
I used to love the poodle ettins and winged ettins. I'll have to get in my game and see what freaky creatures I've got lol.


Eem macaha
 
NornBabbles

NornBabbles



  5/13/2017  1

Thank you guys, The more the merrier so keep'em coming. Many pages have more than 2 creatures on them. I'm also going back and changing some of the characters to the breeds you've introduced me to.
I'm traveling home so I should have samples soon, including the promised Profiles and Roughdrafts with your chars.

@Linda
OMG what an adorable bean! I've never seen that sort of Norn before and they're beautiful!

@Axe Maniac Diva
Requested sort of images are just as fine. I'd love a playful Grendel, so far most of the pics I've done with Grendels they are... bullying the Norns. XD So I'm happy to include your request to change it up.

@fallowbelinda
Ohh, an Ettin looking breed, been wanting to put Ettins in. I actually found some good pictures of Carla-Doe (I'm assuming you drew them, nice work! :3 ). I'd definitely need pictures for the others, it appears some breeds have been updated without pics or don't have pictures at all that I can find (as I found out with the Abyss Dragons). So please, screenshots (or drawings) please.

@MidoriFrogNorn and Everyone cuz It’s important yo.
I've been thinking about that a lot actually.
This is a game with a large modding community and I've drawn for something like that before. Skyrim, Tera, ect. Now when I draw those characters, I don't often credit the clothing outfits, body features, ect, that were created by mods that made up that character. So an easy way to credit would just be the name of the character and their owner.
For an alternative route that's more complicated I DID create a new way to credit for this community 'if' you want it.
It will have to be in the last pages and not on the bottom margin because I have MANY norns on several pages and the bottom margin would look like a total mess of tiny font. XD But first things first, GETTING the credits to begin with…
Let's use the Breeds presented so far for an example:
On the Abyss Dragon’s designated wiki page. As far as I can tell they are created by Lurhstaap, and Lurhstaap alone. It was only until Lurhstaap said they had Gargoyle arms is when I could look up Gargoyle Norns and find that they were made by Alien. If Lurhstaap hadn’t said anything about that, I wouldn’t be able to credit Alien. I wouldn’t even have KNOWN Abyss Dragons had Gargoyle features. If you catch my drift.
It gets even more complicated with mixed breeds like fallowbelinda’s Carla-Doe. Could be part Grendel, but could be part MODDED Grendel created by someone entirely different but is considered a different breed. Or a Modded spotted breed for the body, and WHO made the Ettin used for her head as a Norn breed, IF a Norn breed at all and not Ettin. An Ettin modded to breed like a Norn? Or a Norn modded to look like an Ettin? No clue, not sure what’s possible, I’m not putting anything past this modding community either. haha

Things are getting rather complicated aren't they?

So I figured I’d set the credits up like this; in the first half of credits I would credit the Creatures their caretakers/owners. Then in the second half I’d credit the Breeds and their creators. The Breeds would be in Base order starting from the head, to the body, then arms, legs, then extra appendages like wings and tails.
For example of the first half:
Name of Creature. Page numbers they are on. Owner. (Body parts in brackets) Breeds they are made up of separated by commas.
Alfonso. 23-33,44. Lurhstaap. (Head,Body,Legs,Tail) Abyss Dragon, (Arms,Wings) Gargoyle.
Example of Second half:
Breed. Page numbers they are on. (Body parts in brackets) Creator of breed.
Abyss Dragons. 2,6,23-33,44,77. (Head,Body,Legs,Tail) Lurhstaap.
Gargoyle Norns. 2,6,23-33,44,77. (Arms,Wings) Alien.

If there is a Norn whose body is a whole breed, instead of saying all the body parts in brackets I'd just write (Breed).

So I’m could ask that everyone tell me what their alien is made up of (all body parts and by who) ‘if you can.’ If you don’t know or you weren’t watching the whole generations thing going on I understand. I think there’s a mod that allows you to see what your Norn is made of, but I wouldn’t know the details of that. I can only rely on what you give me basically and I’ll do my best with that.

Remember this isn’t being sold, it’s a gift, so being completely formal with credits isn’t that necessary. Still, I’d like to include credit where it’s due. But if you can’t, no pressure. This is a free book, and the only most important credit is the creators of the Creatures games in their entirety and your names attached to the Creatures you've taken care of.

I'll leave this up to you guys. And you can do either if you don't know for sure. There's no pressure if you don't know what your creature is made up of as a mixed breed.
Creature name (c) Owner
Or
Name of Creature. Page numbers they are on. Owner. (Body parts in brackets) Breeds they are made up of separated by commas.

Breed. Page numbers they are on. (Body parts in brackets) Creator of breed.

 
Missmysterics

Missmysterics



  5/13/2017

This sounds great! I havn't got any norns I really want to get drawn though.
I think buttefly/flora hybrids are super cute though, both breeds by Amanora.


 
Norngirl

Norngirl
Sweden  

 visit Norngirl's website: Norngirl's Temporary Storage
  5/13/2017

First of all, Nice idea about the color book!
But I think you do not understand the concept of "Breeds".
Also Warning - LOTS of text,Sorry for that!
EDIT: Remove My Norn list here

First of all, Luurshtarphs Abbys Dragons are made up by two different breeds with sprites,
both none is made by him. Abbys Dragons IS his creation in that it's called a Genetical Breed:
it means it is uniq and special in genetics,making it act as a new breed,but use sprite sets of existing ones installed on your'e game.
The different coloring can allways be done by edit pigments & Pigment bleeds,to make the new genetical breed uniq ,as he done here.
The sprites a genetical breed is made of for it's look is the default official ones ingame such as C3 Civet,Bruin,Bengal norns,The C3 Ettin & Grendel. But if you download new breeds made by people,you have a wider selection to set the apperance to something that mix and match the sprites to something cool looking,otherwise you would be stuck with the few Norn breeds you have ingame of Creatures 3 (as mentioned beore) along with Chichi Norns from DS.

So,Lurshtaarps Abyss Dragons do NOT use only Alien's Gargoyle,but a person by the name Bug' who made the Dragon looking Norns in the first place,and this breed is called
Draconian Norns http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/Draconian_Norn. So yes Bug IS the real breed creator of this dragons,otherwise Luurshtarp would not have any dragon looking breed,nor would he have wings from Gargoyle: http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/Gargoyle_Norn_(C3/DS)
. So Credit would go to Luurshtarp making his Abyss Dragons,but also credit goes to Bug & Alien for the breeds Sprites he use parts of (Gargoyle & Draconian),making his Abyss dragon to be...Dragons in looks.

As for Carla-doe's example - The breed randomness and the messy crediting is not complicated. Creature breeds are made by sprites. This sprites is of bodyparts parts
and every breed takes up a breed slot,from A-Z, and species (Norn,Ettin,Grendel,Geat).
it is the sprite sets that make Creature uniq and cool looking. In Carla-doe's
Case,it is breeds used by Norn slot C,Grendel Slot A,Ettin slot A.
Those breeds that takes up this slots/species in Creatures 3 is allways the
C3Grendel (Grendel A),C3Ettin (Ettin A) and a Civet (Norn C).
So she do not use any special third party breeds - it is purely a Creatures 3 based one with the deafult ones excisting when you install Creatures 3. Civet Norn is the cow patterned Norn,The Grendel and Ettin is the ones you find in the desert and the jugle ingame.
C3Grendel,C3Ettin and a Civet.

But if she was having a Norn that used part of a third party instead,
Lets say it is Arnout's Giraffe Norn instead of Civet (taking breedslot Y of Grendel,even if it is a Norn-this does not matter,it's changed within the genus in the genom)
and we say that the default C3Ettin is instead SnapDragon's Yettins (Ettin slot N)
and Grendel,using Banshee grendels (Grendel B) - Breeds like the Banshee Grendel,Bondi Norn,Hardman Norn etc is official breeds, BUT you had to buy them in the past because those are special in that they have sprites,genetics and comes with agents (objects).

Nowdays, people who wasn't able to buy them in the past have to ask around and get send PM recive the breed packs - other once before paid breeds,such as siamese,zebra,astro etc is now free thought . Anyhow,but if we say Carla does was made by this third party breeds,
People that do not have them installed would not be able to see them as supposed to,
and require to download the breeds (or if wanted,any breed that use the breed slot,if not liking that kind of breed/using another set.)

So simply you would need to Credit by just saying they use Girrafe Norn,Yettins and Banshee Grendel (out of the 3 breeds,you would only need to credit Arnout and Snapdragon - as Banshee being a official breed,does not need any credit.) Also,Keep in mind a Creature
Can only use 5 apperance genes - Head,Body,Legs,Arms and Tail.
So The Credit list will never be that super long.

This is also how people list breeds used on theyre Creatures in the adoption of Creatures Caves - http://creaturescaves.com/downloads.php?section=Creatures&view=1409 (if you look at the first Norn,Samma,sent in by Karias.
Look at the list on Breeds it use - Flora,C2Desert & Golden Desert Norns. If you click any of them,you can see it leads to the breed list,
wich I explain below :

It shows the breeds name, who made it and what breed slot it takes up.
So what we see is Flora Norns,made by Amanora (The very same person who made additional pretty breeds,such as Butterfly I see many post here) and Desert/Hebbes - originaly a Creatures 2 breed,so it should not get credited- I know it takes amount of time to port past breeds and make them work into the games - some even comes with new tweaked genetics.So I would say the breed porters would be credited usualy but not in this case - it is a colorbook
the Desert Norn was ported by Charles&Donutking (this is seen on Creatures Wiki & Mummy's site,but someone should update it on CC , ) and Golden Desert (again a official C2 norn breed) but was ported by Razgriz for C3/DS.

So basicaly Karia's Norn,Samma would be just credit
Amanora,as Flora is a entirely new breed made by a fan,while C2 Desert/Hebbe & C2 Golden Desert Norn IS allready a official ingame breed in Creatures 2.


To see other breeds (Fan & official alike) in the list, you need to set it on for what game and Genetic+Sprites - NOT genetics only. This is the C3/DS list:
http://creaturescaves.com/downloads.php?game=C3DS&type=Full&species=Ettin&slot=&sortBy=ID&searchFor=&section=Breeds
keep note that it is the breed slot that is important ,as it shows if it clash with breeds.
Another note is C1 use numbers instead of letters from 1-9.

I can take examples - Grendel X is a breed slot where you can find two different breeds:
Snapdragons Tiger Grendel and GhostHande's Dustdevil Grendel.
Both are entire new breeds - with own look and genetics,but you can only choose one
to have in your'e game. So thats why if I adopt a Creature part Tiger Grendel,will change all parts that was Tiger grendel into Dustdevil Grendels.
In such matter I think the person who post up the picture of it's creature
and is using any of those two - simply if he/she states it is supposed to have looks of
Tiger grendel,then it is Snapdragon who get credited -example-.
I guess it would also help if people mention for what game,as well.
Some breeds excist only in some Creatures games. There excist some ports,
but most are game exclusive. But yeah - as said,you could simply just mention
the breeds and the authors,without needing to type in breed slots/species,of course.

I bring all this up about credit & breeds ,because as a breed maker myself ,I'm quite sensitive if not getting credited for the things I make.

All of my breeds I put lot of effort,time and lots of work - most is sprites I have hand drawn,too (such as my Albian at Norn's wings,feet,tail and such)
My breed is also very different from the base breeds ,and is not mere recolors of base breeds either.To make breed sprites takes a long process and is not a easy thing.
You have to edit everybodypart,each having numerous images of said bodypart.
So yes, I think I should credit breed authors as well.I think it's just fair to give credit to
other who made the breeds. Without the breeds for downloads,people would be stuck with
same default breeds. It's just right to give credit to the people who own the creature,
but as well the breeds it is made up by the ones who created the sprites!
It's just polite and a nice thing to do! So if people do use any of mine,
hae to credit,thanks.

If people do not know what breed sprites it use and want to know,in order to download the breeds that make it look right (or some people that is simply puzzled why this awesome looking Norn they downloaded suddenly use default ingame sprites than having fins/wings etc,because they belive the Norn would allready look like that when downloaded to a Vanilla C3/DS.)
You can check a creatures looks by going to Genetic Kit or any gene editor - locate Apperance,there is 5 apprance genes,as mentioned before - Head,Body,Arms,Legs and Tail.
Just by looking at the apperance gene's sprite letter and genus ,along with the breed does tell what breed it use,by finding the breedslots letter &species slot that Creatures Caves breed list, Trix's breedlist (not up to date) is a good example,as well: http://home.scarlet.be/~jan128/
Hopefully I make some sense with all of my explenation.


If needed a list of all my breeds with new sprites I made (found on my site,https://sites.google.com/site/norngirlstemporarystorageplace/Home)
I include the breed name,what breed slot (if needed to locate) as well what game they are for.

NOTE: I Only list breeds I made with MY own sprites (I fully respect and credit people who been part of helping me with resizing,genetics,egg agents,porting some of my breeds and such)
But since this is for a Color book - it is a mater of apperance,
and so I count my breeds with my sprites:

¤ Neko Ettin (Ettin Slot H) -C3/DS only-
¤ CHE ,CupidHeartEttins (Ettin Slot G) -C2 Only-
¤ MSAN,Maned Spotted Aardvark Norn (Norn R) -C2 Only-
¤Albian Bat Norns -C2 Only
TPSE,Turquise&PinkStripedEttins (Etting slot Q) -C2 Only-
(port of TPSE to C3/DS,using Ettin slot T)

Pig Grendels (Grendel slot P) -C2 Only-
(A C3/DS Pig Grendel port Use Grendel J and a alternate vers,Grendel Z )

¤Chameleon Ettin (Ettin Z) -C3/DS Only-
(C2 port of Chameleon use Ettin W)

******************************************
Other very old breeds made by me with new sprites:
*,C1 Ettins use slot 1
( ported C1Ettins for C2,use Ettin slot C)

*C2 Gremlin Norns (Grendel G) - NOT to confusse the C3 Gremlin genetic breed by Westwind.
C2 Ice Norn (Norn Q)
C2 Gryme Grendel (Grendel Q)
C2 Glettins,Nornbreed made by me & my sister Grendelgirl
(use Ettin F)

C2 Peace norn & ettins (Use Norn Z and Ettin Z)
**************************************************

As for colorbook - I myself draw a lot of Creatures fanart as it is
and posted up a bunch on my DA gallery,is non viewable for non members- But I can allways appreciate others art!,

EDIT: removed list because my Norn list is found on second page with Images of them all & discreption!
Why have the ame list twice ? ;p

Buut if you do not want to draw any of those pose suggestion,then I guess I end up drawing them on my own pictures of my Norns X3
And don't forget to include credit or the breeds & authors!
(well at least I am picky when it comes to my own breeds,Just incase make it clear if anyone is part of my breeds,such as Neko Ettin,Pig Grendel etc)
I know the Colorbook is free,but still - can the owners of the creatures be credited,so can the breeds they are using (only exception if it is official Creatures breeds,that is clear as crystal).

So! Will you draw any of my Norns? :D
-Also do not mind my typing,if some letters are amiss,miss spelling etc it's because Im fast typing and the Laptop sometime like to not allways register some letters I type and such! I hope it is still readable! -

 
Lurhstaap

Lurhstaap
United States  

 visit Lurhstaap's website: Addicted To CAOS
  5/13/2017  1

Norngirl is correct. My Dragons are a genetic breed, using the sprites of Bug's Draconian Norns and Alien's Gargoyle Norns. I apologize for not making that clearer before - I assumed you already knew about the distinction between genetic breeds, graphic-only breeds (a lot of the official breeds and a few unofficial ones are just re-sprited Chichi genomes), and full breeds (breeds with unique genetics AND art). I did indeed create their genetics (though even there, I was working off a TWB or CFF base... and TWB in turn is based on CFF!)

So the issue of credit does become fairly challenging when one is considering breeds.

I should also note that I'm FAR from the first person to make a Norn that uses Gargoyle Norn arms and Draconian Norn body/etc.! I can't even claim that as an original thought. XD the only thing that's mine are the genetic modifications I made to the TWB and CFF genomes.


Conclude with killer catchphrase.
(Lurhstaap)
"This is not knowledge -
this is information!"
New Model Army, "Courage"

 
Norngirl

Norngirl
Sweden  

 visit Norngirl's website: Norngirl's Temporary Storage
  5/13/2017

@Lurhstaap - Thank you! yeah I felt I needed to make it clear - was no offence meant to anyone that does Genetical breeds :3
Also,Wow lurhstaarp,Im suprised if you manage read all my text? O__O'
Judging of you're quick reply and your'e post,I guess you saw the first written part about Genetical breed,haha.
Also credit breeds is not so hard I think - I wrote about it in my post ;3

I also hope NornBabbles will be able to read all my text,included my Norn Colorbook suggestion of Norns and poses and such X_X'I know it is a long read thought...
- I hate when Im being such a long text typing machine,sorry for that!-

 
MidoriFrogNorn

MidoriFrogNorn



  5/13/2017

I second what Norngirl said in her long post -ribbit-
Also,thanks for wanting to see my Frog Norn request to NornBabble along with youre pose suggestion for it,Norngirl.I like it! -ribbit-

Hope NornBabble is able to read youre long text! -ribbit-

Lol,I think Luurshtaap did not read everyrhing,too much text. -ribbit-

Now lets wait for mister NornBabble and hear what he says! -ribbit-


" I "Ribbit" as my sentence ending"
 
NornBabbles

NornBabbles



  5/13/2017

Thank you, though I'm sadly not tech savy in any way so most of it went way over my head to be honest. It's so much more complicated and I don't even know where to begin to make sure everyone's breeds are correct if they don't tell me.
But from what I can tell I should keep credits simple.

As special as I'm keeping this project between my actual paying work I'm literally not allowed to spend the time needed delving into the rabbit hole of who made what. I have a code I have to work by to keep my Plausible Deniability.
It's the client's part to give me the credits of what is what, otherwise as far as I know it would just be credited:
Characters name (c) Owner @ their web address/userpage/ect.
{-the rest after 'Owner' is only stated on merchandise. On profiles it is linked through their username}

From my TOS -> I claim Plausible Deniability. I am not responsible for copyrighted or stolen material presented in my Pieces. If there is copyright issue, I simply take the problematic Offensive Piece down altogether from my profiles and merchandise and send the Offended Party to the Original Client to settle out the theft or whatever.
My hours of work were paid and nonrefundable, I only drew what I was told to draw and only credited what I was told to credit. If there is a problem with the information and copyright of what the Original Client has commissioned me to draw that is not my concern nor will I take part in the debacle surrounding it.
My only involvement will be to provide upon request the Offended Party the (public) Low-Res piece to show in their case against the Original Client. When the case is settled the Offended Party (if they won) may ask for a copy of the (private) High-Res Offensive Piece for themselves which they can use to their own content. But I will no longer personally provide traffic to the Offensive Piece. Once the Offensive Piece is taken from my profile and merchandise it will not be replaced there again.


Can you tell I've had experience with people trying to pull me into their drama? XD LOL This is why I have to work within the restraints of my Plausible Deniability.
Though it's a bit different here. This isn't being sold, I'm not putting it on merchandise either. I can't put it on my Profiles either else I would technically be making money off of it by using it for examples to my other works.
Thus I will ONLY put the digital copy release on Creatures Caves and no where else. This site does not pride Profiles for gaining traffic so I can't really be penalized for uploading it here.
If someone takes offense to their breed in a picture (or several), down those pictures go, becoming irretrievable. Because breeds can be made up by several people, and if only one of those creators finds a piece(s) offensive I will not provide copies of the deleted pictures to the original owner(s) to be used for their own traffic means. That is the only difference by the Public TOS
A creator that asks for the original pieces is assumed to use them for their own means for traffic, bringing money and popularity points to themselves. But if they can't piggy back off of my traffic they don't get much for a selfish endeavor. But here the Creator of a breed could be just ONE in a lot of many creators of that one breed. Thus unless all creators of that one breed bring up offense and demand a copy of the original pieces, NO ONE gets those taken down pieces.

By rule of thumb: If I'm not making money off my work, neither can you.

That's why things are set up the way they are, I do this for a living after all. So basically I just said I'm LAZY and YOU do the work? haha But, ya know, nice and technical like. XD


Also wow you surprised me (well I shouldn't be this IS where Creatures fans hang out) because... well. Norngirl drawing your chars are gonna be a cinch because I've already done fanart of your stuff for years... like... even recently. Yeah, this is awkward. I've stalked you on DA since I came across ya years ago. I never talked to ya because I don't have a DA and I never uploaded the fanart because I thought I might HAVE to talk to you if you found out and OH MY GOD I'M SO PATHEEEETIC! e_e Ahaha

 
MidoriFrogNorn

MidoriFrogNorn



  5/14/2017  1

....5 bodyparts that use one breed each...thats not too much credit (breed sprites usualy made by one person)-ribbit-

Anyhow -ribbit-
Are you going to draw a Creatures2 Frog Norn?
Or you reject because it is normal looking..
But you said request is fine!Yulukyun requested his Grendel. -ribbit-

As well you going to Draw Norngirls colorful and regular Norns? -ribbit
As well the PMN she asked for?
(that is not her breed-it is a original from Creatures 1)
...-ribbit-

And missmysterics Norn? -ribbit-

I ask because you did not make it clear -ribbit-
Why not post a list of those you accept...or..everyone is welcome (me included) ?? -ribbit-

Stalk Norngirl? Draw her characters? (Confussed)
You did not trace her stuff o.o? -ribbit-


" I "Ribbit" as my sentence ending"
 
NornBabbles

NornBabbles



  5/14/2017  1

Oh MidoriFrogNorn, don't fret. XD
I plan to do ALL of it. Just can't get home fast enough to scan and upload. Got stuck in a few blinding storms. :(
I named this thread plurally. If some don't make it in one book. They'll make it in another, and another. I DO plan to limit the pages of the Books, as you do with all such books. And if there are requests left over They will be in lone pages uploaded until the next book project in which I'll slide them into it.
I'll let ya know what pages are in and not, sorry I should've made that clear in the first post.

 
Laura
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  5/14/2017

I named this thread plurally. If some don't make it in one book. They'll make it in another, and another.


Would you like me to edit the news post accordingly, NornBabbles? Also, I love this idea, thank you for all your hard work with it so far! I'll be submitting some creatures of my own soon. :)

 
NornBabbles

NornBabbles



  5/14/2017

Had to double post cuz I'm on phone.
When I'm home the answers will come pretty fast. I'm a very fast worker. Getting B&W pieces done and uploaded within 20 Minutes to the hour of recieveing. I draw fast and plenty to open slots for more money so be prepared to try to keep up with me once I'm throwing pics at ya. XD
Im sorry it's been so long before even a smidgen of art, it can't be helped. When I'm home I intend to make a long post with every request up till this post. Wait for feedback in case there needs to be tweaking, then move on.

 
NornBabbles

NornBabbles



  5/14/2017

Ok well NOW I'm double posting. XD

Yes Laura, thank you. I'm sorry I didn't make it clear.
And thank you for the news thing, I just discovered what that was. Wow I'm a n00b.

 
Laura
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  5/14/2017

Not a problem, I was happy to do it. Any news concerning Creatures or the community is welcome here. I've made a couple of tweaks to the news post, let me know if there's anything else you'd like me to include specifically. ;)
 
Norngirl

Norngirl
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  5/14/2017

@NornBabbles: Thats amazing everyone will be there and no one will be left out -Thank you! :3


I re-readed my post and need to edit mine (I do it myself,thank you XD)

I was so caught up into the whole credit part,that I forgot it is afterall a color book - so no need to credit converted breeds,since they are official,such as C1toDS,Creatures 2,Creatures Adventure&Playgroun-aka Creatures Village breeds. I trim of that of my list.

What I mean is,What does it matter if the C2 Pixie Norn
is from the original C2 or a ported/converted C3/DS,
when it is a color book,it just show the image of...a Emerald Norn (or a mix of it) ? XD Since it's a official,it is a iconic breed found in C2 and was ported to C3/DS for us to be able to enjoy the breed ingame.
(No disrespect to the ones who was at hard work porting it!)
I just meant that this stuff is not quite needed in a Colorbook.
So if anyone use the official ingame starter breeds,such as C1 Banana,C2 Emerald - they maybe do not need credit.
I forgot Biostorm did convert the C3 breeds to C2,but still I would just say "my Norns use Bengal,Civet sprites or simply C3 Ettin sprites" If I use Biostorms C3 converted breeds in C2. Get what I mean?

At least new made sprites made by people and like mine,such as Neko ettin or Pig Grendels-Those are created straight from my creativity and not based
on something found in any of the games from start.
I think Such is credit-able.

I go and try trim my post,many apologize for this!
Im just used to give proper credit to everyone,haha.
-feels so stupid but hey,Im just being polite -

EDIT: Done! -sigh- I wish this forum could have a easier acces to
insert links and images,without allways looking back at the specific codes that enable bold text,insert links to be clickable,insert image visible on post direct...My post look so unactractive this way! : O
Thats why my posts get long text and maybe unbreable in first eye sight,because I can't remember this codes (sorry moderators,but now you know why I tend to give you the headaches with all this,sorry for that! )

I will try to check for the codes and see if I can insert it in my future post (and perhaps maybe edit my long post here too).


 
byebyebue

byebyebue
United States  


  5/15/2017  1

I'm too tired to read all of this =/ BUT I think the idea is really sweet! My kids are going to be so excited to color these pictures! I got them addicted to the series too :P

Good luck and thanks for this!

 
NornBabbles

NornBabbles



  5/17/2017  1

I found mistakes in some of the pictures so I'm going back and fixing them as I find the time to do so. For now, I figured you had waited enough so here's what I put together for your review so far.

Also take note that any words in the pics will not be in the book, nor are all these profiles very... normal, especially if the character was easy to draw. My drawings tend to take a life of their own...
What I'm working toward:
I changed the style slightly to have stable anatomy, I don't do well with "floating" limbs as they call it. Where you just make up where the limbs connect (particularly the legs) each and every picture as it was in the guidebook. It made it have closed lines which is better for coloring, but it also made them look a bit stiff. So I'm working on that. I have notes all over the originals to add more exaggeration here and there (these examples are traces of my work for neatness as the originals are very sketchy).


Lurhstaap's Abyss Dragons, Alfonso and Annemone.
Profile and roughdraft

Missmysterics Flower/Butterfly hybrid request.
Profile and roughdraft
The Bruin is mine, sorry, some of my characters slipped in. As I warned earlier, my hand just does what it wants the first round. XD
You can see I left some lines where different fur/skin colors in AND out (on more than just this example I think). I'm debating whether I should keep such dividing lines out to allow even more freedom to those that color it THEIR way. You want to limit creativity as little as possible with these sorts of things.

Norngirl's sibling request of Drino and Nedrah.
roughdraft
I ended up messing up the most on Norngirl's requests. Even this picture is a redo, as I drew them backwards. (Drino sad and Nedrah happy)

 
Norngirl

Norngirl
Sweden  

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  5/17/2017

Yay Norn Art , I love art!!: D
I can't get enough of it!


I truly must say I love the way you drawed them in your'e style(yes,I think it's more a mix of a bit of a try on Petal&River mixed togheter with your'e onw uniq style,and that is just a neat combo!)

Now you made me curious over the past picture that got reversed (Drino sad and Nedah Happy XD i hope you did not erase them : O

As for the current look: It's adoreable! Alltought I only would point out female C2 Emerlad Norns do not have full hair,but only a single curl fringe from her head,and the two curls from the cheeks - but hey,it's your'e style and if this is the take you do when drawing them,then I do not mind!
I love when people draw in theyre own takes!
I guess it's only me who want to stay as close as possible when I draw,haha. ^^

Also neat you did find a nice pose instead of my suggestion
(Im gonna draw my pose suggestion myself now - yippie : D)
And it's sweet you did go al out with a background even!

I think you made the others interessting looking too!
Look forward to see more!

Btwn: may I ask,wich more Norns did you consider from my side,or it was just Nedah and Drino?




 
Laura
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  5/17/2017

Wow, I love how these are drawn. They look so professional and legit, like something you'd expect to see on sale in a bookstore. Honestly! I can't wait to see the finished book now. And I agree with Norngirl's comment about River and Petal, were you influenced by that style? Because that's really cool, and a nice homage to the old style of the earlier Creatures artwork.



Would you consider adding Bellona to the colouring book, please? She's a Purple Mountain/Ron Norn crossbreed, and is also unique in the sense that she has a mutation that turns her into Sleeping Beauty. When she falls asleep, it's difficult for her to wake up again without medical intervention. I'd love for her to be included if possible, maybe she could be drawn wearing some pajamas to give her a little bit of personality? :)

 
Trell
Wee Scrivener

Trell
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  5/17/2017

Your art is simply phenomenal..!

Trell
"Holy crap in a casket!"

 
Norngirl

Norngirl
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  5/17/2017

@ Laura -I do think he is :3
He mentioned the offical Guide book and showed a pic clearly of River horrified by a Grendel XD

Also,Bellona is cute! But she is a PMN and Ron Norn mix in apperance (as seen of the photo of her) - So yes she is a mix (just a friendly pointer) still very adoreable!

 
Laura
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  5/17/2017

... So she is! Thanks for reminding me. :P You can tell how long it's been since I've played Creatures 1... Oh dear! Haha. I'll edit my post accordingly. ;)
 
Norngirl

Norngirl
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  5/17/2017  1

Yep,Im a Norn/Creature in general- veteran by looks ;)
Draw them often,played the game entire life now - so I do recognize bits and pecies in breeds and gender.
Aaand that Im a huge PMN fan XD

Your'e very welcome!
She is a sweetheart and is sure she would look nice in a Pyjamas or something that make her look like a little sleepy beauty!

 
Lurhstaap

Lurhstaap
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  5/17/2017

S/he did say they were going to do their best to use the Petal/River art style in their first post. :) Looks great! I've been telling myself to do Creatures art forever but somehow I never get around to it. Bah! I shall fix that today! You have kicked me in the butt, good sir or madam. XD

Conclude with killer catchphrase.
(Lurhstaap)
"This is not knowledge -
this is information!"
New Model Army, "Courage"

 
Laura
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  5/17/2017

Thank you. :) You see, I have to read and go through so many posts on this forum that it's easy for me to miss little details like that. But anyway, I digress! I can't wait to see more drawings, and what creatures other people submit.
 
Norngirl

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  5/17/2017

@Lurhstaap - Thats exactly what I said to Laura as well about the Petal/River art style.
"@ Laura -I do think he is :3
He mentioned the offical Guide book and showed a pic clealry of River horrified by a Grendel XD "
I thought I did not need to say it was on the very first post,as that was kinda clear,I think (and the image can't be missed) :D

As for my veiw of his art,I allready said it in my own post before Laura.

I would be interessted to see your'e try on Art,Lurhstaap :3




 
Intyalle

Intyalle
New Zealand  

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  5/17/2017

Oh wow NornBabbles, those are stunning! :D I love your take on the dragons.

Also known as bab_5_freak from the old Gameware forums.
 
NornBabbles

NornBabbles



  5/18/2017

If there's anything wrong in the profiles and roughdrafts here's the place to say it. I work really fast, and make mistakes. So if you spot something, say something. :3


I'll try to reply in order. haha
@Norngirl
I'll slip the original sketchdraft tomorrow. It was quite different.

Thank you about the Hair thing. I looked at her real hard trying to figure out what and where the hair was. At first I thought the cheek things were purple drills, I was so confused. XD Will be fixed.

-I'm not going to copy any poses from the guidebook or River and Petal. Besides the style itself, requesting something 'similar,' or a 'parody,' is the closest I'll ever do to copying someone else's work.

Note- That's just filler background, any background on any of these pictures are not the final backgrounds. I just don't want the roughdrafts to appear so empty sometimes. I usually get the poses (and props) of the characters first, and then near the middle stretch process of creating the pages for the coloring book I'll thematically place them in the games' settings, and it is here I may even tweak the poses slightly to fit the theme of the background limited to the portrait style page.
If any of that made sense. XD I try. I think the Norns were from C2, so I was thinking a C2 background for Nedrah and Drino but my games don't work so I'll have to use references and pick somewhere that doesn't take away (distract the eye) from the Norns too much.

@Laura
Bellona in PJs sounds adorable. X3



I actually didn't know about River and Petal until you guys said anything about it. I could only go by pictures I found online which I found out were from the Guidebook. I was drawing this all spot on in the same style, but in arose the problems with the "floating limbs."
I mixed it with a cartoon style I already had created (namely just the pelvic area where the legs attached to stabilize the floating limbs/legs). There was also another issue where it turned out the Guidebook's style is too "thin." Had to fatten them up a bit, thin design details were not good for coloring in for young children (my nephews and nieces are my test subjects, lol). I hope it still ended up looking like an official take all its own though. I'm still tweaking it too, none of this is set in stone at the moment. Still too early.

 

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